Argument
from God Correlate:
Dr. Hood, Univ. Tennessee Chattanooga:
Inventor of the 'M Scale"
the post that appeared and disappeared is on Atheistwatch, sorry. The one about method and atheist argument
We
can't demonstrate empirical knowledge of God to others, even if we
feel we have it ourselves. But if we can correlate something that is
empirical with God, the effects of God in the world then we could
know by association between sign and signified that there is divine
reality. Just as the fingerprint betrays the presence of the owner of
the fingers that made them, or the track in the snow proves the
presence of the creature that made it, so RE as the God correlate
points to the presence of God in reality is the effect of the divine
upon our lives. As a theological example of this principle we can
draw upon the works of Schleiermacher. God is the correlate of RE as
God is the correlate of the feeling of utter dependence. In Speeches
on Religion
to it's Cultured
Dispersers
he seemed to be making the simplistic argument: “I feel
emotional when I pray to God so there must be a God to feel emotional
about. [1]
By the time He wrote his magnum opus Glaubenslehre
(the
Christian faith) he
had developed a much more sophisticated version. He
now understood these religious affections in a particular way, as a
feeling of utter
dependence. [2]
Though critics often interpret the concept of “feeling” as an
emotional response the real crux of his argument turns the utter
dependence aspect. Rather than merely emotion
he's identifying the
feeling
as indicative of a religious capacity. [3]
We could think of it as a “religious instinct,” or
more properly a religious consciousness. It is from this sense of
consciousness that doctrines derive their meaning, as verbalization
of the sense.
This
sense of consciousness as part
of the basis of religion
offers a theoretical framework for connecting the sense of the
numinous to the notion of real experience of the divine. Of course
it's not a direct unmediated revelatory face to face encounter, but
like the track in the snow points to a presence not directly seen.
It is the original pre-theoretical consciousness...Schleiermacher believes that theoretical cognition is founded upon pre-theoretical inter subjective cognition and its life world. The latter cannot be dismissed as non-cognative for if the life world praxis is non-cognitive and invalid so is theoretical cognition..He...contends that belief in God is pre-theoretical, it is not the result of proofs and demonstration, but is conditioned solely by the modification of feeling of utter dependence. Belief in God is not acquired through intellectual acts of which the traditional proofs are examples, but rather from the thing itself, the object of religious experience..If as Shchleiermacher...says God is given to feeling in an original way this means that the feeling of utter dependence is in some sense an apparition of divine being and reality. This is not meant as an appeal to revelation but rather as a naturalistic eidetic or a priori. The feeling of utter dependence is structured by a correlation with its whence. [4]
This conclusion might be somewhat deflating for apologists, but there are two of caveats that might make it more palatable: (1) We don't have to reduce religion to just feeling or to consciousness, we don't have toally agree with Schleiermacher, we can understand doctrines and feelings as bound up with the same reaction to reality and the consciousness that obtains from sensing it. (2) we can construe the feeling as a phenomenological approach rather than a definitive commentary upon all of reality. If affections or consciousness based upon affections are primary in belief, this does not mean that arguments are of no value since people rationalize their feelings, and arguments help to clear away the clutter and clarify feelings.
Critics
such as John Webster
et. al. Attack this
notion as a continuation of his mistake from On
Religion, that
Schleiermacher got the process backwards. [5]
It is not feeling that produces doctrine biut doctrines that produce
feeling. The deep connection to
affections is dismissed as his Moravian upbringing, the mark of the
romanic era. “...The
feeling of utter dependence, which Schleiermacher thought universal
is an expression of the salient Christian virtue of humility with a
particularly Protestant emphasis on the utter helplessness of man to
save himself.” The argument is that Schleiermacher is just
generalizing, the feeling is merely a feeling about the world from
which he generalizes based upon his Christian upbringing. “All
religions do not simply
promote awe and connectedness to it.” [6]
To the contrary,
thanks
to the M scale, we now know that these experiences are universal. The
feeling of utter dependence
is really about a sense of contingency, the radical contingency of
all things, and it's great
underlying unity, this equates to the sense of the meniscus and
undifferentiated unity one finds in mystical experience. While
Schleiermacher's feeling is not exactly mystical experience itself it
is very closely related. Thus the universality found in RE supplies
an answer to the criticism.
Thus
the presence of the sign (the experience) informs us of the presence
of the signified (God); like finger prints match the finger and thus
reveal the person who made the print. The association between the
divine and mystical experience is at least theoretically valid in
terms of an anthropological perspective; religious experience forms
the foundation upon which organized religions are built. [7]
The sense of the numinous is a deep all pervasive since of love.
The basic assumption made by those who have the experience is
overwhelmingly that they have experience God. How can we know this to
be the case without already knowing that God exists and what it is
like to sense God's presence? We could set up criteria based upon
the nature of religious belief. What conditions would one expectorate
to prevail or what aspects would one expect to find in sensing God's
presence?
Criteria:
(1). Life Transforming and vital in a positive life-affirming sense
(2) It would give us a sense of the transcendent and the divine.
(3) No alternate or naturalistic causality could be proven
These criteria are based upon the nature of religious belief and experience taken from all major world religions. More to the point they are derived from the works of W.T. Stace who argues that in all world religions there are certain claims about certain types of experiences that answer our most basic existential questions [8] These claims about answering the basic questions and positively affecting our lives constitute some of the most basic truth claims of world religions. If these claims are justified we should see these conditions in the criteria met. Religion in general seems to attempt to make sense of the nature of being human, to construct and then explain the Human problematic, or the human condition.. This knowledge is said to tranform the the lives of those who have such experiences. The content of the experiences themselves include a snese of the Holy, a sense of the sacred, the imparting of noetic content, these are all communicated in the texture of the experience itself. This realization accounts for criteria 1 and 2. It is only reasonable to think that the experience might be an experience of a reality involving the divine, since it indicates the validity truth claims of religion. It is equally reasonable and scientific to assume that if no counter causality found the God based conclusion is warranted. Thus, we have Criterion 3. These criteria are fulfilled by the data, and that allows us to derive the following argument from the criteria.
Argument:
(1) The affects and effects of mystical experience are real in that they are measurably transformative in a positive sense.
(2)These affects cannot be reduced to naturalistic cause and affect, bogus mental states or epiphenomena (this will be seen in analysis of skeptical counter causality below).
(3)Since the affects of Mystical consciousness are independent of other explanations and the effects are real we should assume that they are genuine experiences of something transcendent of our own minds.
(4)Since mystical experience is usually experience of something, the Holy, the sacred, or some sort of greater transcendent reality we should assume that the origin of the experience is rooted in transcendent reality.
(5)Since mystical experience is usually about the divine we can assume a divine origin.
(6) Since religious symbols are culturally bound, and religious affectations are tied to such symbols, the universal nature of mystical experience implies an objective referent.
Justification
for P1 “measurably transformative in a positive sense” is
reflected in the findings throughout the 50 year period during which
the body of researched has been collected. A huge number of studies
corroborate these findings, not all of them use the M scale but they
all use various measurements. Many of them use standardized
measurements already in place for happiness and self actualization
and other such affects. I have selected a range of studies that spans
the time period. Two of the first scientifically rigorous scientific
studies on the topic were Robert Wuthnow (1978) [9]
and Kathleen Noble (1987) [10]Summary of their finds are as follows:
Wuthnow:
*Say
their lives are more meaningful,
*think
about meaning and purpose
*Know
what purpose of life is
Meditate
more
*Score
higher on self-rated personal talents and capabilities
*Less
likely to value material possessions, high pay, job security, fame,
and having lots of friends
*Greater
value on work for social change, solving social problems, helping
needy
*Reflective,
self aware
Noble:
*integration,
allocentrism,
*psychological
maturity,
*self-acceptance,
self-worth,
*autonomy,
authenticity, need for solitude,
*increased
love and compassion
*Experience
productive of psychological health
*Less
authoritarian and dogmatic
*More
assertive, imaginative, self-sufficient
*intelligent,
relaxed
*High
ego strength,
*relationships,
symbolization, values,
Lukoff
and Lu (1988) conducted a literature search reflects many studies
demonstrating the transforming effects of religious experience, some
of them using the early version of the M scale.[11]
For example Finney and Maloneyh (1985) found contemplative prayer
was instrumental in improvement in psychotherapy.
[12]Hood (1977) found high correlation between mystical experiences and
self actualization, persons of relatively high self actualization
were more likely to have had mystical experiences. [13]
Other studies (not in Lukoff and Lu) include Greeley who, “found
no evidence to support the orthodox belief that frequent mystic
experiences or psychic experiences stem from deprivation or
psychopathology. His 'mystics' were generally better educated, more
successful economically, and less racist, and they were rated
substantially happier on measures of psychological well-being.” [14]
Sullivan, using a large quantitative base of former mental patients
found that 48% identified spiritual practices as crucial to their
healing and this was corroborated by those ho cared for them. [15]
This is just a small sample of the studies that demonstrate the
transformative aspects.
Justification
for P2 cannot be reduced to naturalistic cause and effect will
be dealt with mainly below in answering the argument on brain
chemistry. P3
affects of Mystical
consciousness are independent of other explanations and the effects
are real we should assume that they are genuine experiences of
something transcendent of our own minds. That
they are independent of counter causality derived from 2. That they
are real is derived from the measurable effects in 1. P4,
experience of something: The content of the experience is
about the divine, or ultimate reality. Even when the experience is
interpreted by the receiver not to be about God the receiver has been
known to act in ways that are consistent with belief in God.
Moreover, the experiences described tend to match those described as
experiences of the divine. Ergo it’s just a matter of
interpretation. Secondly, the vast majority of those who have these
experiences do believe they are about God. [16]
This final point about the universal nature is of particular interest, When doctrinal explanations and differences of tradition are controlled for, the experiences themselves are the same the world over. Even among atheists, those who have religious experiences respond to them in the same way that religious believers do. This might indicate that these people are all experiencing an objective reality which is external to the human brain. There is a voluminous and ancient tradition of writing about experiences by people from all over the world, who claim to have experienced the divine. Mystics and philosophers have catelogued such writings. Two of the most noteworthy examples are Mysticism by Evelyn Underhill, [17] and Teachings of the Mystics by Philosopher W.T. Stace. [18] Many other such writers have included these experiences. Thirdly, grounded in empirical evidence, the universal nature of such experiences implies a source external to the human mind. When I say “external” I mean it originates externally but is experienced internally. This includes human brain structure and brain chemistry as a conduit not that it circumvents natural processes. W.T. Stace shows that, as Ralph Hood Jr. put it, “within and eventually outside of the great faith traditions mysticism has flourished.” [19]
Stace offers five characteristics that demonstrate the commonalities to mystical experience; these are characteristics that are found universally in all cultures and in all forms of mystical experience:
The contemporary interest in the empirical research of mysticism can be traced to Stace’s (Stace, 1960) demarcation of the phenomenological characteristics of mystical experiences (Hood, 1975). In Stace’s conceptualization, mystical experiences had five characteristics (Hood, 1985, p.176):
1. The mystical experience is noetic. The person having the eerience perceives it as a valid source of knowledge and not just a subjective experience.
2. The mystical experience is ineffable, it cannot simply be described in words.
3. The mystical experience is holy. While this is the religious aspect of the experience it is not necessarily expressed in any particular theological terms.
4. The mystical experience is profound yet enjoyable and characterized by positive affect.
5. The mystical experience is paradoxical. It defies logic. Further analysis of reported mystical experiences suggests that the one essential feature of mysticism is an experience of unity (Hood, 1985). The experience of unity involves a process of ego loss and is generally expressed in one of three ways (Hood, 1 976a). The ego is absorbed into that which transcends it, or an inward process by which the ego gains pure awareness of self, or a combination of the two. [20]
The
other aspect of importance to this work is the universality argument.
The universality argument could be taken as a warrant for belief, but
I use it here to show that there’s a reason to equate these
experiences with Supernature. When Hood took out the name specific to
a religious tradition (from the M scale) and just asked general
questions about experience, the experiences described were the same.
This indicates that what is being experienced is the same for all the
people having religious experiences. This is actually the same as
saying Stace’s theory was validated. If it wasn’t validated they
would not describe the same experiences. The indication is that there
is an objective reality all of the mystics experience. The reason is
because religion is a cultural construct. If they were just
describing a constructed set of expectations resulting form culture,
the experiences would be conditioned by culture not transcending it.
So that means Iranian Muslims experience what they think of as
“Allah” and Baptists in Cleveland experience what they think of
as “Jesus” in the same way. This is should not be the case if
they are merely experiencing culturally conditioned constructs. The
implication is that they may be experiencing an objective reality
that both understand through culturally constructed filters. Thus,
there is a good indication that some external reality is experienced.
One would then be warranted in thinking that this external reality is
God, since the content of experience and its result on people's lives
correlate with the objections of God belief in general.
[1] Frederick
Schleiermacher, Speeches on Religion to it's
Cultured Dispersers. New York:
Cambridge University Press, Trans. Riichard Crouter,1996, 24-5
[2] Frederich
Achleiermacher, On The Christian Faith. Edinburgh:
T. and T. Clark, Trans. H. R. MacKintosh and J.R.Stewart, 1986,
76-8
[3] Ibid.,
124.
[4] Robert R. Williams, Schleiermacher the Theologian: Construction
of the Doctrine of God. Minneapolis MN: Fortress Press, 1978, 4.
[5] John
Webster, Kathryn Tanner, and Ian Torrance, ed., Oxford Handbook of
Systematic Theology, Oxfor:Oxford University Press, 2007, 421.
[6] Ibid.
[7] David Steindl-Rast, “The Mystical Core of Organized Religion,” Copyright © 1989 by David Steindl-Rast. Used by the Council on Spiritual Practices with permission.First appeared in ReVision, Summer 1989 12(1):11-14. Online resource, URL: http://csp.org/Steindl-Mystical.html (accessed 1/2/16)
[8] Stace,
Mysticism and Philosophy,, op.cit., 42-44.
[9]
Robert, Wuthnow,"Peak Experiences: Some Empirical Tests."
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, 18 (3), (1978), 59-75.
[10]Kathleen D. Noble, ``Psychological Health and the Experience of
Transcendence.'' The Counseling Psychologist, 15 (4),(1987).
601-614.
[11]
Lukoff, David & Francis G. Lu (1988). ``Transpersonal psychology
research review: Topic: Mystical experiences.'' Journal of
Transpersonal Psychology, 20 (2), 161-184.
[12]Finney
and Maloneyh, “An Empirical Study of Contemplative Prayer as an
Adjunct to Psychotherapy,” Journal
of Psychology and Theology 13 (4) 284-90.
[13]Ralph
Hood Jr., “Differential Triggering of Mysticalo Experiences As A
Function O Self Actualization,” Review of Religious Research, 18,
1977, 264-70.
[14]Charles T. Tart, Psi: Scientific Studies of the Psychic Realm, New York: Dutton, 1977, back in print ed. 2001, 19.
[15]W.
Sullivan, “It Helps Mev Be A Wholoe Person: The Role of
Spirituality Among The mentally Challeneged.” Psychological
Rehabilitation Journal, 16 (1993) 125-134.
[16] Ralph Hood Jr. “The Common Core Thesis in the Study of Mysticism.” In Where God and Science Meet: How Brain and Evolutionary Studies Alter Our Understanding of Religion. Patrick Mcnamara ed. West Port CT: Prager Publications, 2006, 119-235.
[17]Evelyn Underhill, Mysticism: A study on the Nature and Development of Man’s Spiritual consciousness. New York: Dutton, 1911
[18]W.T. Stace, Teachings of the Mystics: Selections from the Greatest Mystics and Mystical Writers of the World. New American Library 1960. A good General overview of Stace’s understanding of mysticism is Mystical Experience Registry: Mysticism Defined by W.T. Stace. found onine at URL: http://www.bodysoulandspirit.net/mystical_experiences/learn/experts_define/stace.shtml
[19]Ralph Hood Jr. “The Common Core Thesis in the Study of Mysticism.”op. cit., 119-235.
[20]Robert J. Voyle, “The Impact of Mystical Experiences Upon Christian Maturity.” originally published in pdf format: http://www.voyle.com/impact.pdf.
Google html version here:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:avred7zleAEJ
Voyle is quoting Hood in 1985, Hood in return is speakingStace.
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3 comments:
So Dr. Hood is an old Hippie. That's why I had the courage to email him and begin telling him about the book, back in 09 or some time when I was still writing it. I said "He's an old hippie. I, an old hippie, so he will help me." We became friends I've never met him in person.
"(1) Real effects come from real causes"
Real effects also come from fake causes; remember the placebo effect.
Pixie
Anonymous said...
"(1) Real effects come from real causes"
Real effects also come from fake causes; remember the placebo effect.
I eliminated placebo or causes of mystical experience in chapter 8 of my book
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