Wednesday, June 11, 2014

My Response to Dave Stump's Criticism of The Trace of God by Joesph Hinman

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Dave Stump wrote an admirable review for my book on Amazon, The Trace of God (by Joseph Hinman), for Amazon, and I posted it on this blog last Monday (June 9, 2014). Dave made some criticisms of the book, I expected no less. These were not only fair criticisms but I also agree with hem in some ways. At any rate they are worth taking seriously so I decided to comment on them.


Common core weakens truth claims of Christian tradition

The "common core" is the view of mystical "theology" and/or phenomenology that is supported by Ralph Hood jr, inventor of the M Scale (mysticism scale.).The M Scale figures prominently in the book. [1] The common core says that there is a common core experinces at the basis or all organized religion. The attentive to the common core is the "perennial philosophy" which seeks to establish a unique and separate philosophy or religon based upon mysticism, even though it's worked in all different faiths. Stump's criticism:
This approach [the common core] may leave the reader to wonder how these experiences are associated with any but the most generic kind of "higher power". While that does bolster the universal aspect of the experience and avoids the difficulties of issues such as mutually exclusive religious claims by appealing to something that per-dates and transcends religion, such claims are seriously undercut by this approach.
 I did anticipate that one could see it that way. Thus I included a whole chapter (the last chapter, no 9) on that prospect. I argue that we experience God at a subliminal level. To make those experiences understandable to those who have not had them (which the mystic is driven to do by our nature as social animals) we encode them in cultural constructs. That colors the religious tradition with the culture and makes religions seem different from one another. They are in fact different becuase they grow up rooted in and colored by the culture but there is a common core that transcends the culture; the same reality stands behinds all traditions. I point to the metaphorical nature of all language. I wrestle with the epistemological reality and what that entails for religious belief as a whole. I make the argument that religion is not about words on paper. Doctrine is improtant and I do not advocate basing doctrine upon mystical experience. Yet the daily experience of a religious life is about knowing the proper words but expericing God in a real and living way. That's what these people are doing who have these experiences. That's what the experience is about phenomenologically.


 Major criticism: forced dichotomy

A weakness of the book is that is somewhat limited in offering a broader view of the evidence and its implications. The arguments are geared in many cases toward a model of "Here is what some people claim/think, here is a different way to see things/evidence that contradicts what those people say." This refutation style tends toward a false dichotomy of potential views. This style is understandable given the author's goals, but still those who don't fit well within either of the two sides presented will nod along in some sections and shrug at others. The potential criticism of Hthe author's position comes as you might expect primarily from the arguments of those he is refuting. That is, "Here is what someone who rejects a certain kind of data (or a particular analysis of that data) says and here is my rebuttal". Self-critique is not entirely absent in the book, however, and there are caveats included regarding the author's interpretations of the evidence he provides.

That first answer above is a good segway (segue) to this issue. I've basically just answered this criticism above. I did not create the framework into which these experiences are grouped. It has a deep history in human society perhaps even going back as far as Neanderthal.At least we know they had religion.[2] So that approach was set out for me. Yet there's good evidence that we fall into it naturally without being herded there by society. One set of data from the studies themselves, where those whose data based is contains a large number of children (some studies have as many as half coming from children) find that they have mystical experience. Other studies show that children are not laden with doctrinal hangups. Meaning their conclusion that their experience is about God is pretty natural and just comes tot hem without a lot medication by society. Even if they are in a chruch they are still not laden with the church's doctrines as an iron clad view even they spout the doctrine to some extent.

Dave says those who don't fit will shake their heads or shrug, I assume he means they will react in an indifferent manner to the conclusions. What he doesn't say is who they are? How many alternate views are there of the same experiences? Use of the M scale or soemthing it is necessary to even answer the question because otherwise how do we even know we are talking about the same experiences?

He also alleges that my arguments come primarily from those who argue against me. that I'm allowing the atheists on CARM to set the agenda. I think that's very untrue. That is an assumption that has some validity with regard to how the project got started the early thinking, and the basic God arguments in their general structure. As the years research got going and become more diverse, the years dragged on the atheists on the net had less and less to do with it. The agenda was really recaset by Dr. William S. Babcock my old professor at Perkins who introduced me to Proudfoot's work. Proudfoot is a detractor and an atheist. In a sense an atheist was still setting the agenda, but not an internet atheist. I do two chapters on Proudfoot and his attack upon mystical experience. As I developed more of a friendship with Dr. Hood I think he began being more of an influence upon the agenda. I began moving toward what I saw as Hood's research areas. I brought the Vedantists into it and opened it up to a more universal element beyond the Christian community (Hood is not a Christian).

Where I agree with Dave is that there is an inherent Derridian point of contradiction that if pressed will always be problematic. That's in the realization about the nature of language as essentially metaphor. We can always introduced the autonomy between symbolism and literalism and always ask "is this really representative of what is going on?" Are always imposing our own framework upon the amorphous sense data? Although I believe that the sense data will suggest it's own categories if we give it a chance. I believe that's what's happened with mysticism. I think it's the reductionists who explain it away who are imposing their frameworks. When people listen to the experience that it suggests the categories of God and religion. There has to be a point at which we accept that the fits works and thus has some religion to truth, we get the category right, or we are not able to accept truth at any level. That means we also lose scinece and rationality. The categories I speak of are those into which we group our understanding of things to explain the workings of the world. As I understand phenomenology it says that we set up preconceived categories and impose them upon sense data, but if we let the data suggest the categories we come closer to the truth.


 does it meet it's goal?
  the question of whether the book succeeds at its goal of presenting a rational warrant for belief in God depends on how you measure success.

Neither the internet atheists whom Hinman debates nor the professional promoters of atheism will be convinced in the slightest by this book that belief in God is any more or less reasonable. Anyone who is settled in their conviction that belief in God is ridiculous or harmful will not be swayed by the even the most detailed and subtle lines of reasoning put forward in this book. Even though Hinman tries to make the case that his definitions of God, religion, and so on are more nuanced than their common usage allows, one can still choose to reject the significance Hinman gives to these words and to the human experiences Hinnan connects to them. As an argument for a rational warrant rather than conclusive proof, there is ample room to take an opposing view if one is committed to doing so. Trace offers an approach to defending the reasonableness of belief in God, but its arguments do not obviate a thoughtful and honest rejection of such belief.
 He says how we measure success that determines the answer. If we define the point of the goal to be the effect on lives and not selling books (that sounds like a wise goal so far--not selling books, that's certainly in keeping with reality) it does meet the goal.

Achieves true Goal of positive effect on people's lives
 Where the broader success of the book will be measured, aside from sales numbers, is the impact that it has on those who are true fence-sitters in the God debate as well as the reception by those looking for broadly accessible arguments and supporting evidence for the reality of God.
That's very sharp of Dave. Yes rational warrant is the ostensible goal but the true goal is to provide a focus and framework for those who have had such experiences, or seek them, or are just searching and don't what they need to understand the idea of an experiential relationship with the divine and to understand the value of it. Part of that is clearing away the clutter of fear and distrust that surrounds any subjective approach to reality such as an experientially based approach.

The book is having that effect. Wordgazer talks about it. Others who have read it already have told me "this book as already changed my life." From the message board interview: "That sounds absolutely like something I've been looking for. Thanks! I will be ordering me a copy right now."[3]



 Notes

 [1]Metacrock, "The M scale and the Universal Nature of Mystical Experience," The Religious a priori an online resource: http://religiousapriori.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-m-sacle-and-universal-nature-of.html (accessed 6/10/14). This is my article from religious a priori (my blog-website) which I have published on this blog as well,  it explains in detail what the M Scale is about. Suffice to say it's a means of establishing that one has had an actual mystical experience, thus it can be identified and thus a control group established, thus the phenomena can be studied scientifically.

[2] Ker Than, "Neanderthal Burials Confirmed as Ancient Ritual," National Geographic.Dec 16, 2013 On line version:  http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131216-la-chapelle-neanderthal-burials-graves/  accessed 6/10/14. one must register to read the article.
I deal with this issue in the book and present a lot more historical evidence about Neanderthal and early humans. The fact all of that is speculation. There's no way to prove that religious experience existed back then. I do show evidence of  tribes using techniques of conscoiusness raising that link them to mystical experience. Yet there is no way to prove they had those techniques thousands of years ago.

[3] Michael Cole, Re: JRP interviews Joe Hinman on THE TRACE OF GOD
Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:17 am
http://www.evangelicaluniversalist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5620


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Monday, June 09, 2014

This book is not an argument for the existence of God.



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 Anthropologist Dave Stump

 This is by a friend of mine named Dave Stump. He is an anthropologist and has taught as an instructor at an eastern University. This review was on his blog, Peacefultermoil, June 5, 2014.
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This is a review of my newly  released book. It's not a bunch of "Hey for Joe he's great." It had criticisms which I will attempt to answer, maybe on Wednesday. Please read it and buy the book.



There is a subtle distinction between saying that something ought to be or must be true because of some combination of evidence and logic and claiming that it is reasonable to believe that something is true. It is reasonable to believe that the person lurking outside of your neighbor's window at night is dangerous, even though there may be an innocent explanation for their presence. Who would think you were being irrational if you called the police to investigate the matter? Even if it was all a misunderstanding your actions, based on the circumstances, would seem reasonable.


This is the premise of Joe Hinman's first book, The Trace of God. In formal terms, the basis for such reasonable beliefs is described as a rational warrant. This is what Hinman seeks to offer as revealed in the subtitle, "a rational warrant for belief". To put it plainly: you don't have to be ignorant, stupid, or mentally incoherent to believe in God.

That message flies in the face of a popular depiction of those who do profess belief in God that has been perpetuated among some religious cynics and aggressive irreligionists. The image of the uneducated oaf who blindly accepts whatever his religion tells him is right no matter what. The image of a gloating imbecile who seems proud of his ignorance and whose pride in his anti-intellectual and anti-progressive stance is only matched by his inability to tolerate disagreement on matters of faith. To be fair, many who profess belief in God have helped to create and popularize this image and give those who deeply criticize religion increased credibility. This book is intended as a rebuttal to such an image and to those who professionally and casually capitalize on it.

The professional side includes individuals such as Wayne Proudfoot, Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, and others known to those involved in the debates over atheism. Hinman sees them as trying to lend their professional credentials to directly or indirectly support misrepresentations and negative images of those who believe in God. On the casual side there are self-professed skeptics and atheists on message forums such as those hosted by the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (better known by its acronym CARM) or The Secular Web. Hinman refers in Trace to the latter as (the) internet atheists.

It was these internet atheists that helped to form the basis of this book as the arguments and references within its pages are largely gathered from arguments and debates posted on the aforementioned forums as well the author's blogs. The book itself is a polished and organized collection of those arguments presented as a refutation of the idea that an informed, thoughtful, honest, and intelligent person could never really believe in God. Or that if such a person does so believe, that is must be the result of habit or lack of adequate reflection.

Hinman attempts to dispel this notion by presenting evidence that there are similar or identical states of experience found in cultures around the world that are associated with spirituality as well as with religious expression and practice. The claim put forward regarding these states -- referred to as mystical or peak experiences -- is that they are positive, life-affirming, healing, and consistent with the idea of a loving God as portrayed in particular strands of various religions. Spirituality is equated with transcendence and seeking a higher power, and God is associated with that higher power, whose communion with humans creates the mystical state of experience offering the benefits mentioned.

The book cites study after study to show that there is unbiased, scholarly evidence for the reality of these experiences as well as their benefits. This is tied together with an argument for what might reasonably count as evidence for the existence of God, how arguments for the existence of God should be evaluated, and why the evidence offered makes belief in God a reasonable yet not incontrovertible position. This is cast against many common arguments, made more popular over the last decade, that suggest that there is in fact no reliable or compelling evidence for the existence of God -- arguments that dismiss the reality, value, or meaning of the peak or mystical experiences that are the centerpiece of Trace.

Going on the face value of Hinman's interpretation of the significance of the studies cited (which are all referenced for those who wish to investigate them further), a strength of Trace is the picture it offers of common core mysticism (the unity of peak/mystical experiences across religions and cultures) and its associated benefits. This approach may leave the reader to wonder how these experiences are associated with any but the most generic kind of "higher power". While that does bolster the universal aspect of the experience and avoids the difficulties of issues such as mutually exclusive religious claims by appealing to something that pre-dates and transcends religion, such claims are seriously undercut by this approach.

A weakness of the book is that is somewhat limited in offering a broader view of the evidence and its implications. The arguments are geared in many cases toward a model of "Here is what some people claim/think, here is a different way to see things/evidence that contradicts what those people say." This refutation style tends toward a false dichotomy of potential views. This style is understandable given the author's goals, but still those who don't fit well within either of the two sides presented will nod along in some sections and shrug at others. The potential criticism of Hthe author's position comes as you might expect primarily from the arguments of those he is refuting. That is, "Here is what someone who rejects a certain kind of data (or a particular analysis of that data) says and here is my rebuttal". Self-critique is not entirely absent in the book, however, and there are caveats included regarding the author's interpretations of the evidence he provides.



Does the book succeed in its goal?


As someone who has argued and debated various religious topics with Hinman for over a decade and a half, it is difficult for me to see the material presented in Trace outside of that context. Moreover, the question of whether the book succeeds at its goal of presenting a rational warrant for belief in God depends on how you measure success.

Neither the internet atheists whom Hinman debates nor the professional promoters of atheism will be convinced in the slightest by this book that belief in God is any more or less reasonable. Anyone who is settled in their conviction that belief in God is ridiculous or harmful will not be swayed by the even the most detailed and subtle lines of reasoning put forward in this book. Even though Hinman tries to make the case that his definitions of God, religion, and so on are more nuanced than their common usage allows, one can still choose to reject the significance Hinman gives to these words and to the human experiences Hinnan connects to them. As an argument for a rational warrant rather than conclusive proof, there is ample room to take an opposing view if one is committed to doing so. Trace offers an approach to defending the reasonableness of belief in God, but its arguments do not obviate a thoughtful and honest rejection of such belief.

Where the broader success of the book will be measured, aside from sales numbers, is the impact that it has on those who are true fence-sitters in the God debate as well as the reception by those looking for broadly accessible arguments and supporting evidence for the reality of God. To the extent that it can interest or persuade the fence-sitters and seekers or bolster the conviction of believers and provide them some measure of cover against the image of the gullible God-nut it will have had an impact on the current religious debates as construed via social media. Check the reviews and testimonials if you want some sense of this metric.

This book is already a personal triumph for Hinman, however, in terms of bringing to completion a long term project that saw a few setbacks and delays. It is also a way of validating his productivity and the time spent debating atheists by turning his passion for arguing for the value and feasibility of belief in God into a tangible product. Not everyone manages to make something real out of their passions or is willing to subject their creations to public scrutiny.

 The book emphasizes evidence and arguments pulled largely from history, philosophy, and psychology as well as a good dose of theology, and the structure of the book is one long semi-formal argument and its individual components, and this might be a distraction for some readers, so make sure to keep track of the point of each section and its significance to the larger picture as you go. Don't be afraid to skip around a bit to get a sense of what is being said but be wary of missing a key detail or point if you just skim through. If you want to leave direct feedback for the author or ask questions about the book, you can do so here.

I recommend this book to anyone interested in the contemporary atheism debate, especially as it is argued online. Whatever your position on the matter the book offers insight into how many commonly used arguments are formed and how they are framed and re-framed depending upon the worldview and goals of different participants in the debate. Whether or not you are convinced of the reasonableness of belief in God after reading this book, you will certainly be able to appreciate that intelligence and acuity is not anathema to such belief.

Interview I did on a message board about The Trace of God.

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Friday, June 06, 2014

The Longest Day!

I am doing two film reviews today. see the De Sica film "In He Shoes of the Fisherman" after this one. I completely forgot about the anniversary of D day!

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Cast

Cast overview, first billed only:
Eddie Albert ...
Paul Anka ...
Arletty ...
Jean-Louis Barrault ...
Richard Beymer ...
Pvt. Dutch Schultz
Hans Christian Blech ...
Bourvil ...
Richard Burton ...
Flying Officer David Campbell
Wolfgang Büttner ...
Red Buttons ...
Pauline Carton ...
Sean Connery ...
Ray Danton ...
Irina Demick ...
Janine Boitard (as Irina Demich)
Fred Dur ...
This is an excellent film. It counts as American it's Ameircan produced even though it had a million directors.
It commemorates an event that I think stands out as one of the seminal events of human history. I'm an anti-war guy for hte most part. I protested Vietnam when I was a little kid. I protested the contra war and  the gulf war and Irak. But WWII I don't think I would have protested. I would have supported the war effort totally. Hitler was evil and had to be stopped. The militaristic forces that controlled Japan at the time were also Hitlerian and evil.

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 The chruch at Sainte-Mère-Église where
Red Buttons hangs from the tower.

The Longest Day is find film to commentate the event. It has so many moments it would hard to Isolate one. The Richard Burton scene is one my favorites becuase we find out he's been stiched up with safety pins. when the drugs wear off he's in trouble. Red Buttons handing from the chruch steeple at Sainte-Mère-Église wathing his guys get slaughtered as he just hangs there, then being defended by the bells. The Little clicker devise to identity each other in the dark. Then they mistake ducks and gese clicking then the German breach loading his rifle makes that clicking noise.

My favorite scene as to be the peasant who lives at the beach. Every morning the German sergeant rides a donkey around the area and the french farmer curses at him. He's just longing for the day when the allies comes. One morning he looks out his window toward the sea and there is a lad of ships sailing toward land.He's ecstatic. suddenly his back yard blows up. Shells are exploding all around him. His wife is shouting "we will be killed." He jumping around going "who cares. they've come! Vis la France!" The Sergent is knocked off his donkey by the blast and the peasant is still jumping around celebrating. Intercepted with this is the German officer who goes to the bunker to check. It's routine does it every morning. They never come. Suddenly it looks some dark objects are emerging from the fog. He can't believe it, they come into focus, they are ships, then they start shooting at him.

It's a brilliant movie and commentates something that so profound historically I can't really talk about it.
Even John Wayne's cliched character doesn't gum it up. In fact Wayne is prefect, WWII battles were his setting. Everyone who was anyone in that era (1962) was in it. It's really one of my favorite films.

Film Fest Friday: In the Shoes of the Fisherman

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Oskar Werner (1922-1984)

Guess what guys. I'm wrong about his film. I just realized De Sica is in it but he did not direct it. Michael Anderson directed it. OK it's a pile of crap. don't watch it!

no seriously.I will have to move it out of my De Sica section. I hate it when I'm wrong about facts! O well It happens so seldom. ;-)



After all this ranker about the Pope I re publish this little film review I did in 2007 when I saw this film on the late show. I don't really have a point to make with it but It's neat. The review got a lot of interest.  That was written before Pope Francis. This film sort of anticipated Pope Francis 50 years before he came along. Although really the two figure are very different.

Sunday Night I could not sleep. I decided to go into the tv room after tossing and turning. My brother was just going to bed, it was the wee small hours. There, just coming on, "In the Shoes of the Fisherman" a film which had been critically acclaimed in its day(1968). I couldn't stop watching. My parents took my brother and I to see it when it was just out, and it was considered a very important movie with some of the great actors of the time.Anthony Quinnplayed Kiril Lakota who becomes Kiril I, the first non Italian Pope in 400 years. I recall our teacher in fifth grade talking about it in school. It made a big impact because it dealt with the premier fear of the time, the threat of nuclear war.


Oskar Werner played David Telemond, a young radical priest patterned after Tielhard de Chardin.Werner won an Oscar for the part, he always reminded me of a young William Buckley, William Buckley Jr. jr. In fact Buckley was pretty young back then so he was more like his kid brother than his son. In supporting roles were Lawrence Oliver, one of the greatest actors of all time, and the great Italian Film director and sometime actor Victorio De Sica, who directed "The Bicycle Thief" and "Miracle in Milan." It was a fine film, perhaps a great one, and totally forgotten. Greatness is always forgotten. The film strangely foreshadowed real life as the first non Italian pope in 400 years was chosen from a communist country. He had been a political prisoner for twenty years. Chosen because he was a Russian, would be willing to stand up to them, and thus acceptable to the West, but had experience dealing with the Soviets and understood their thinking. At the time he is chosen a crisis is percipient between The Soviet Union and China. In real life at the time these two communist comrade states were having boarder disputes, shots were fired people were killed. In the film, China is in a deep famine and three provinces are starving. The Soviets are saying they will be at war in a two months. They appeal to the pope to act as go between with the West and try to procure food to stave off the famine. China has a huge list of demands for both the USSR and the West. They are not willing to take aid because they don't want to come under the thumb of Western imperialism again, and they suspect that the West will make heavy demands. The Pope steps in and agrees to empty the Vatican coffers to buy the grain for China. This will leave the Vatican broke. The Church hierarchy opposes it but the new pope stands his ground. He announces the move at his coronation in St. Peter's Square, which is filled with a half million people. He says something like "we will do as Christ would do and empty our wealth to feed the starving people." The Crowd goes wild cheering and gives him a great ovation. The Film ends as a slight smile comes across Quinn's face while the people of the world calibrate, the Church is finally doing what it should have done in the middle ages.

The subplot that develops with Telemond, the Oskar Werner character, involves a hearing to determine the soundness of his teaching, and eventually he is silenced.That means he can't publish his works. He could quite and publish them without the blessing of the church but if he wants the blessing of the Church he can't have it. The hearing is brought on by the new Pope who wants Telemond as a private top adviser. He knows the young man is one of the most brilliant theologians of the Church and wants to bring him into the inner circle. But he has a reputation as a radical and his views are suspect, the Pope wants him cleared as soon as possible. But the young priest can't do enough to screw up his own cause. Every time he clears up a seeming unorthodoxy clarifying his position, he then makes more confusing statements that sound even more radical. At one point Leo McKern(Rumpole of the Baily). Cardinal Leone, asks "do you believe that Christ is the son of God?" "certainly I do" he says, "Christ is the center like the hub of a wheel where the spokes meet, he is a microcosm of the whole universe." They all look puzzled and ask "do you believe that Christ is the savior." "certainly I do, but if I did not, I would still believe in the world.. I have a vision of the world that I can't give up. If I did not believe in God I would believe in the world." He goes on to say something to the effect that "Christ is the world." Needless to say they silence him. It's amazing to see Hollywood try to sound like radical theology without doing violence to the ideas of de Chardin.Telemond makes it easy on them and dies of a brain tumor shortly after that. Tielhard de Chardin also died soon after he was silenced and never had the chance to prove himself.

I love this film because it's the very heart and soul of the 60s, it shows the period when theology was the most exciting and really meant something in the world. There will never be a movie like this again. It was a product of a kind of Hollywood that doesn't' exist anymore.It was made at the very tail end of the old Hollywood withthe star machine sysetm, the Hollywood built by Meyer and MGM, just before the "new breed" of films such "Easy Rider" began to emerge. This was the same year "Bonnie and Clyde" came out, that marks the beginning of the new film making. This was A Hollywood that felt duty bound to be somewhat reverential of the Catholic church. It was a Hollywood that made films of great pageantry enacted the world stage. A Hollywood that made socially important pictures about big ideas. It addressed the spirit of the times, fear of nuclear war, the sense that we lived in a very troubled era, and great crises were unfolding every day. I think the world is now so jaded, and so used to that feeling that it doesn't phase us. it's like going to the moon. the first time we did it was amazing and epoch making, the second time it was not so exciting after that the whole idea was rather ho hum. We still live in dangerous times, and great crises are always unfolding, but somehow we've gotten used to it. The Church is still important but it doesn't seem so. We have been brainwashed into thinking of the world as so totally secularized we don't think of the Pope as a major actor on the world stage.

Another amazing thing about this movie is that at this time liberal theology was known to the public. Most people probably did not know any thing that Tielhard de Chardin said, but they knew there were radical liberal theologians who said things like "God is dead" and for so forth. Teilhard was not a God is dead movement theologian but that was the general sense of "crazy radical priests." Liberal theology was known to the public and the basis of the religious establishment was not the moral majority. The fundamentalists changed all of that and their message came to so totally dominate that most people have no ideology that there is liberal theology. The Church doesn't seem to be a major player anymore either.

Wednesday, June 04, 2014

The M Scale and Universal Nature of Mystical Experience

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Ralph Hood Jr. The University 
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The issues about the M scale are at the center of my book, The Trace of God (now available on Amazon).
Empirical Supernature
            Why should we assume that such experiences are experiences of the divine? The first reason is because the content of the experience is largely that of the divine. Even when the experience is interpreted by the receiver not be about God the receiver has been known to act in way consistently with belief in God, and the experience described is the same experience as those described by those who say ‘this was God.’ Ergo it’s just a matter of interpretation. The vast majority of those who have these experiences do believe they are about God.[1] Secondly, there is a voluminous and ancient tradition of writing about experiences by people from all over the world, and the brunt of this tradition is that it’s an experience of the divine. Literary and philosophical works such as Mysticism by Evelyn Underhill,[2] The works of W.T. Stace[3] and many other such writings which catalogue the writings of these experiences, and many more works of the experiences of individual mystics by the mystics themselves. Thirdly, grounded in empirical evidence, the universal nature of such experiences implies the experience of a source external to the human mind encountered by all who have such experiences. When I say “external” I mean it originates externally but is experienced internally. This includes human brain structure and brain chemistry as a conduit not that it circumvents natural processes.
            The works of W.T. Stace are very influential. He shows that, as Ralph Hood Jr. put it, “within and eventually outside of the great faith traditions mysticism has flourished.”[4]  Stace offers five characteristics that demonstrate the commonalities to mystical experience; these are characteristics that are found universally in all cultures and in all forms of mystical experience:
The contemporary interest in the empirical research of mysticism can be traced to Stace’s (Stace, 1960) demarcation of the phenomenological characteristics of mystical experiences (Hood, 1975). In Stace’s conceptualization, mystical experiences had five characteristics (Hood, 1985, p.176):
               
1.      The mystical experience is noetic. The person having the experience perceives it as a valid source of knowledge and not just a subjective experience.
2.      The mystical experience is ineffable, it cannot simply be described in words.
3.      The mystical experience is holy. While this is the religious aspect of the experience it is not necessarily expressed in any particular theological terms.
4.      The mystical experience is profound yet enjoyable and characterized by positive affect.
5.      The mystical experience is paradoxical. It defies logic. Further analysis of reported mystical experiences suggests that the one essential feature of mysticism is an experience of unity (Hood, 1985). The experience of unity involves a process of ego loss and is generally expressed in one of three ways (Hood, 1 976a). The ego is absorbed into that which transcends it, or an inward process by which the ego gains pure awareness of self, or a combination of the two.[5]
            In speaking of “mystical experience” we are not talking about visions or voices. We are not talking about miracles or God speaking to people. We are talking about “the sense of the numinous,” a sense of presence, a sense of undifferentiated unity of all things. The claim is often made that this is an unmediated experience of reality. The veil is taken back on the thing behind the façade and reality is experienced directly. The notion of an unmediated experience is debatable and not essential to an understanding of the experience. A couple of examples might be helpful. It’s helpful to understand that mystical experiences come in two forms, introvertive and extrovertive. Intorovertive experiences are without time and space; they are not keyed to any external landmark or visual que. They seem to be beyond word, thought, or image. Extrovertive experiences are often keyed to a land mark and seem like projecting a sense onto the image of nature. For example the sense that God is pervading the physical space in nature around which one views a scene in nature. Or a sense that all the natural landscape around forms some sort of whole that’s meaningful and indicative as an understanding of all reality.
Common Core Vs. Perennial Philosophy
            Hood takes these kinds of statements as phenomenological and descriptive of a personal experience. The true nature of that experience as unmediated is not important. The issue is that its universality, since it should be culturally constructed is indicative of more than just a trick of brain chemistry or cultural constructs. Ralph Hood Jr. argues for what is called “the common core hypothesis.” This is not a perennial philosophy one often finds discussed as part of mystical experience. The distinction is hat perennial almost construct a separate religion out of mystical experience and puts it over against faith traditions. The common core hypothesis merely recognizes that there is a common core experience that is universal to mystical experience, and thus it can be argued that it’s an experience of some reality external to just human brain structure. Yet it doesn’t try to collapse faith traditions into a particular theological formulation. Moreover, the common core hypothesis just takes the common core as a phenomenological reality not a theological or ontological demand about reality. Yet mystical experience “promotes a special type of human experience that is at once unitive and nondiscursive, at once self fulfilling and self-effacing.”[6] Introvertive mystical has been identified as “pure consciousness.” This kind of experience lacks content and can’t be tied to a cultural construct or personal influence.[7] While it is the case that these kinds of experiences are interpreted in various ways, and it is the case that various theological explanations tailored to a given tradition are advanced for these, as many as there are mystics to have the, the real diversity comes not from the experience but from the explanations attached to the experiences.[8] Much of the discussion about common core is tied to the texts of a given literature. There various bodies of mystical literature, the important once for our purposes is the empirical. This is a measurement based empirical scientific literature such as the work of Hood.[9]
            Many names loom large in that body of literature; Greeley, Maslow, Wuthnow, Nobel, Lukoff and Lu, none more prolific or significant than Hood. Hood entered the field in the early 70s when he was a young man. Since that time he has done a huge a mount of research and is best known for developing what is called ‘the Mysticism scale,” or “M scale.” This is a 32 item questionnaire that is scored in a particular way and is calculated to test the veracity of Stace’s theories. In other words, if actual modern mystics around the world experience the things Stace thought they do, in the way Stace thought they experienced them (see the five point list above) they would answer certain questions in a certain way.[10] Hood’s work in the M scale is becoming the standard operating procedure for study of mystical and religious experiences. It hasn’t yet been understood by everyone so we find that people evoking religious experience by manipulating stimulation of the brain don’t use the M scale for research and thus can’t prove they are evoking real mystical experiences.[11]  Dale Caird said that “research into mystical experience has been greatly facilitated”[12] by Hood’s M scale. Caird did one of the studies that validated the M scale. Burris (1999) has shown that the M scale is the most commonly used measurement for the study of mysticism.[13]
            The M scale enables us to determine the validity of a mystical experience among contemporary people. In other words, did someone have a “real mystical experience” or are they just carried by the idea of having one?[14] There are two major versions of the M scale, what is called “two factor” solution and a three factor solution. The two factors are items assessing an experience of unity (questions such as “have you had an experience of unity?”) and items refereeing to religious and knowledge claims. In other words questions such as “did you experience God’s presence?” Or did you experience God’s love?” In each section there are two positively worded and two negatively worded items.[15] The problem with the two factor analysis is that it tried to be neutral with Langue, according to Hood himself. It spoke of “experience of ultimate reality” but with no indication that ultimate reality means reality of God. As Hood puts it, “no langue is neutral.”[16] One group might want ultimate reality defined as “Christ” while others who are not in a Christian tradition might eschew such a move. In response to this problem Hood and Williamson, around 2000, developed what they termed “the three factor solution.” They made two additional versions of the scale one made reference where appropriate to “God” or “Christ.” They had a “God” version and a “Chrsit” version and both were given to Christian relevant samples. The scales were “factor analyzed” that just means they weighed each difference as a factor such as it’s mention of God or mention of Christ. In this factor analysis, where the scale referred to “God,” “Christ” or simply “reality” the “factor structures were identical.” This means the respondents saw “God,” “Christ” and “ultimate reality” as coterminous, or as the same things. That means Christians who have mystical experience understand God, Christ, and Reality as reffering to the same things.[17]
            For all three versions matched Stace’s phenomenologically derived theory. “For all three intervertive, extrovertive and interpirative factors emerged.”[18] That means respondents were answering in ways indicative of having both types of mystical experience and deriving interpretive experiences from it, they understood their experiences in light of theological understanding. The only exception was that the introvertive factors contained the emergence of ineffability because there was no content to analyze. Of course where the scale has been validated the same technique was used and tailored to the tradition of the respondent. Buddhists got a version appreciate to Buddhists and Muslims got one appropriate to Islam, and so on. The same kinds of factors emerged. This demonstrates that mystical experiences are the same minus the details of the tradition, such as specific references to names. In other words Buddhists recognize Buddha mind as ultimate reality, while Vedantists recognize Brahmin as ultimate reality, Christian recognize Jesus as Ultimate reality, Muslims recognize Allah as ultimate reality, but all say they experience ultimate reality. This is a good indication that the same basic reality stands behind this experience, or to say it another way they are all experiences of the same reality.
            Hood wrote a Text book with Bernard Spilka[19]
Hood and Spilka point three major assumptions of the common core theory that flow out of Stace’s work:
(1) Mystical experience is universal and identical in phenomenological terms.
(2) Core Categories are not always essential in every experince, there are borderline cases.
(3) Interovertive and extrovertive are distinct forms, the former is an experience of unity devoid of content, the latter is unity in diversity with content.
The M scale reflects these observations and in so doing validate Stace’s findings. Hood and Spilka (et al) then go on to argue that empirical research supports a common core/perinnialist conceptualization of mysticism and it’s interpretation.
The three factor solution, stated above, allows a greater range of interpretation of experience, either religious or not religious. This greater range supports Stace’s finding that a single experience may be interpreted in different ways.[20] The three factor solution thus fit Stace’s common core theory. One of the persistent problems of the M scale is the neutrality of language, especially with respect to religious language. For example the scale asks about union with “ultimate reality” not “union with God.” Thus there’s a problem in understanding that ultimate reality really means God, or unify two different descriptions one about God and one about reality.[21] There is really no such thing as “neutral” language. In the attempt to be neutral non neutral people will be offended. On the one had the common core idea will be seen as “new age” on the other identification with a particular tradition will be off putting for secularists and people of other traditions. Measurement scales must sort out the distinctions. Individuals demand interpretation of experiences, so the issue will be forced despite the best attempts to avoid it. In dealing with William James and his interpreters it seems clear that some form of transformation will be reflected in the discussion of experiences. In other words the experiences have to be filtered through cultural constructs and human assumptions of religious and other kinds of thought traditions in order to communicate them to people. Nevertheless experiences may share the same functionality in description. Christians may want the experiences they have that would otherwise be term “ultimate reality” to be identified with Christ, while Muslims identify with Allah and atheist with “void.” The expressed is important as the “social construction of experience” but differently expressed experiences can have similar structures. Hood and Williamson designed the three factor analysis to avoid these problems of language.[22] This is a passage from my own work, The Trace of God[23]:
In a series of empirical measurement based studies employing the Mysticism scale introvertive mysticism emerges both as a distinct factor in exploratory analytic studies[24] and also as a confirming factor analysis in cultures as diverse as the United States and Iran; not only in exploratory factor analytic studies (Hood & Williamson, 2000) but also in confirmatory factor analyses in such diverse cultures as the United States and Iran (Hood, Ghornbani, Watson, Ghramaleki, Bing, Davison, Morris, & Williamson. (2001).[25] In other words, the form of mysticism that is usually said to be beyond description and beyond images, as opposed to that found in connection with images of the natural world, is seen through reflection of data derived form the M scale and as supporting factors in other relations. Scholars supporting the unity thesis (the mystical sense of undifferentiated unity—everything is “one”) have conducted interviews with mystics in other traditions about the nature of their introvertive mystical experiences. These discussions reveal that differences in expression that might be taken as linguistics culturally constructed are essentially indicative of the same experiences. The mystics recognize their experiences even in the expression of other traditions and other cultures. These parishioners represent different forms of Zen and Yoga.[26] Scholars conducting literature searches independently of other studies, who sought common experience between different traditions, have found commonalities. Brainaid, found commonality between cultures as diverse as Advanita-Vendanta Hinduism, and Madhmika Buddhism, and Nicene Christianity; Brainaid’s work supports conclusions by Loy with respect to the types of Hinduism and Buddhism.[27]
            The upshot of this work by Hood is two fold: on the one had it means there is a pragmatic way to control for the understanding of what is a mystical experience and what is not. Using Stace as a guide we find that modern experiences around the world are having Stace-like experiences. Thus Stace’s view makes a good indication of what is and what is not a mystical experience. That means we can study the effects of having it. Now other scales have been attempted and none of them had the kind of verification that the M scale does, but taken together the whole body of work for the last fifty years or so (since Abraham Maslow) shows that religious experience of the “mystical” sort is very good for us. People who have such experiences tend to find positive, dramatic, transformation in terms of outlook, mental health and even physical health.
Over the years numerous claims have been made about the nature of spiritual/mystical and Maslow's “peak experiences”, and about their consequences. Wuthnow (1978) set out to explore findings regarding peak experiences from a systematic random sample of 1000 persons and found that peak experiences are common to a wide cross-section of people, and that one in two has experienced contact with the holy or sacred, more than eight in ten have been moved deeply by the beauty of nature and four in ten have experienced being in harmony with the universe. Of these, more than half in each have had peak experiences which have had deep and lasting effects on their lives. Peakers are more likely also, to say they value working for social change, helping to solve social problems, and helping people in need. Wuthnow stressed the therapeutic value of these experiences and also the need to study the social significance of these experiences in bringing about a world in which problems such as social disintegration, prejudice and poverty can be eradicated. Savage et al., (1995) provided clinical evidence to suggest that peakers produce greater feelings of self-confidence and a deeper sense of meaning and purpose. Mogar's (1965) research also tended to confirm these findings.[28]
The body of work I refer to here consists of about 200 studies (one could say 300 but let’s be conservative). A huge part of that (about 50) is taken up with the prolific work of Ralph Hood. Not all of these studies use the M scale but it has become standard since the 90s. The body of work here discussed stretches back to the 1960s and the studies of Abraham Maslow. The study of mental health aspects has grown by leaps and bounds over the last couple of decades. Since the deployment of the three part solution of the M scale the studies have been more empirical and better controlled. The effects and their transformative qualities could be understood as rational warrant for belief in God, I have so argued in my former work The Trace of God.[29] Skeptical critics have tended to speak as though I don’t realize that I haven’t proven God exists. I never argued that I could prove God exists. The concept of proving God exists is passé and outmoded. That’s not even a valid issue anymore and as we realize there is no way to prove anything exists—and Tillich argued the language of “existence” is not applicable to necessary being. God is not contingent so speaking non contingent things as ‘existing’ is a misnomer. The issue is not proving God exists but providing prima face justification for assuming the reality of God. So we may rationally equate the co-determinate of the experiences as divine. In The Trace of God I made make several arguments for this I’ll only give two of them a brief summary:
            First is the argument of the co-determinate. This is the reason I called that work “trace.” It’s the Derridian concept of a trace, track or foot print that is testimony to the absence of something that must have been present. In other words, we see a footprint in the snow, something must have made it. We know something was there. It may be a Bigfoot or it may be a Bigfoot hoaxer but something made the track. When this “something” is constantly associated with the sign it forms a co-determinate. Thus the presence of the sign informs us of the presence of the co-determinate; like finger prints match the finger of the person who made the print. The association between the divine and mystical experience is solid; religious experience forms the basic reason for the existence of religion in the first place, and is bound up with the nature of the experience itself. The sense of the numinous is a deep all pervasive since of love. What is doing the loving? The basic assumption made by those who have the experience is overwhelmingly that it is God. Secondly, there is the argument from epistemic judgment. I used a Thomas Reid style epistemology[30] to advance criteria that I think is habitually applied by humans in sorting out which experiences to trust and which to discord: Regular, consistent, inter-subjective, and promotes navigation in the world. When our experiences match these criteria we assume they are valid and accurate as a representation of reality. I then show that the studies indicates that mystical experience fits this criteria so we should trust it.
            The other aspect of importance to this work is the universality argument. The universality argument could be taken as a warrant for belief, but I use it here to show that there’s a reason to equate these experiences with Supernature. When Hood took out the name specific to a religious tradition (from the M scale) and just ask general questions about experience, the experiences described were the same. This indicates that what is being experienced is the same for all the people having religious experiences. This actually the same as saying Stace’s theory was validated. If it wasn’t validated the would not describe the same experiences. The indication is that they there an objective thing they all experience. The reason is because religion is a cultural construct. If they were just describing a constructed set of expectations resulting form culture, the experiences would be conditions by culture not transcending it. So that mans Iranian Muslims experience that they think of as “Allah” and Baptists in Cleveland experience what they think of as “Jesus” in the same way. This is should not be the case if they are merely experiencing culturally conditioned constructs. The implication is that they may be experiencing an objective reality that both understand through culturally constructed filters. This is not the only argument that
            The answer atheist most often give to this argument is that the experiences have a commonality because they are all produced by human brain structure. In other words the names from the various religions are the constructs but the experiences that unite the subjects and that transcend the individual cultural filters are the same because they are products of a shared structure that of the human brain. On the surface this may seem like a good argument but it’s really not. The problem with this argument is even though we all have human brain structure we don’t all have the same kinds of experiences. We can’t assume that universal experiences come from brain structure alone. First, not everyone has mystical experience. Even though the incidence rates are high they are not 100%. We have all human brain structure but all have these experiences. Secondly, even among those who do there are varying degrees of the experience. William James saw it as a continuum and Robert Wuthnow, one of the early researchers who did a modern scientific study on the phenomenon also theorized [31]that there is a continuum upon which degree of experience varies. If the brain structure argument was true then we should expect to always have the same experience; we should have the same culture. We have differing experiences and even our perceptions of the same phenomena vary. Yet the experience of mystical phenomena is not identical since it is filtered through cultural constructs and translated into the doctrinal understanding of traditions that the experiencers identify as their own.
            The brain Structure argument is based upon the same premises reductionists take to the topic of consciousness and brain/mind. They are assuming that any subjective experience is ultimately the result of brain chemistry. There really no reason to assume this other than the fact that brain chemistry plays a role in our perceptions. There’s no basis, as we have seen in earlier chapters, for the assumption that any mental phenomena must originate in brain chemistry alone. I have had this argument with various skeptics on blogs and message boards many times. At this point skeptics have tended to evoke brain chemistry and the assumptions of Dennett and reductionism; since religious experience is linked to brain chemistry it must be the result of brain chemistry, thus there’s no reason to assume it’s inductive of any sort of supernatural. In those arguments a sense usually emerges that any involvement with the natural cancels the supernatural. I suggest that this is the ersatz version of supernature. The alien realm, juxtaposed to the natural realm and brought in as a counter to naturalism, this is the false concept I spoke about above. The original concept of supernature is that of the ground and end of the natural. Thus it would involved with nature. The ground end of nature is the ontology of supernature and pragmatic working out of the phenomenon would be the power of God to lift human nature to a higher level, as discussed above. How can human nature be elevated without supernature being involved with the realm of nature? Thus, the fact that supernature works through evolutionary processes and physiological realities such as brain chemistry is hardly surprising. See my chapter on Brain chemistry in The Trace of God.[32]
            If supernature manifests itself in the natural realm through brain chemistry then the conclusion that this is somehow indicative of the divine could go either way. We can’t rule out the divine or supernatural just because it involves the natural realm. What then is the real distinguishing feature that tells us this is inductive of something other than nature? That’s where I introduce the notion of “tie breakers.” There are aspects of the situation that indicate the effects of having the experience could not be produced by nature by itself:
(1)  The transformative effects
The experience is good for us. It changes the experiencer across the board. These effects are well documented by that huge body of empirical research. They include self actualization, therapeutic effects that actually enhance healing form mental problems, less depression better mental outlook and so on. The placebo argument is neutralized because Placebos require expectation and a large portion of mystical experience is not expected. It’s not something people usually set out to have.
(2) Noetic aspects to the experiences
These are not informational but there is a sense in which the mystic feels that he has learned soemthinga bout the universe as a result of the experience. This usually is on the order of “God loves me” or “all is one.”
(3) The experience contains the sense of the numinous or sense of the holy.
This is closely related to the Noetic sense and they clearly overlap but there is a distinction. The snse of the Holy could be more general and gives the sense that some unique and special aspect of reality exists.
(4) why positive?
These experiences are never negative. The only negativity associated with mystical experience is the sense of the mysterium tremendum, the highly serious nature of the Holy. That is not a last negative effect. If this is nothing more than brian chemistry and it’s just some sort of misfire where the brain just forgets to connect the sense of self to the big that says “I am not the world.” Then why is it so positive, transformative? It’s not often such a positive experience results form a biological accident.
(5) bad evolutionary theory
Mystical experience has not been tied to gene frequency. So the argument about adaptation has to rest upon the intermediaries that it provides, such as surviving long winters so one can have gene frequency. Yet all of those kinds of experiences flaunt the explanatory gap of consciousness. Why should we develop a mystically based sense of the world to get through had long winter when we could more easily develop a brain circuiting that ignores boredom? Then this adaptation that is only there because it enabled us to get through beings snowed in has such an amazing array of other effect such as life transformation and better mental health, and leads to the development of such complex fantasisms of errors as religious belief and organized religion. It’s so inefficient. Surely survival of the fittest should take the course of least resistance?
(6) Navigation in life
It does enable navigation in life, these experiences and their effects enable us to get through and to set our sights on higher idealistic concepts and ways of life.

This directly disproves atheist arguments such as that given by Austine Cline in his article, "argument from religious experience: do we experience God's existence?" He argues that " if there is just one God, why is there such wide variety in the reports of religious experiences? Indeed, they are mutually incompatible. They can’t all be true, so at least some must be false. How do we differentiate? What reasons can the religious believer give to accept her reports over the reports made by others? ."[33] Hood's work proves that they are not incompatible but all experiences are the same. It's the explainations that vary according to doctrine but the actual experiences are the same. By the logic of Cline that should be proof. If the counter point is disproof and I just disproved the disproof then it should be proof.




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[22] Evelyn Underhill, Mysticism: A study on the Nature and Development of Man’s Spiritual consciousness. New York: Dutton, 1911.
[3] W.T. Stace, Teachings of the Mystics: Selections from the Greatest Mystics and Mystical Writers of the World. New American Library 1960. A good General overview of Stace’s understanding of mysticism is  Mystical Experience Registry: Mysticism Defined by W.T. Stace. found onine at URL: http://www.bodysoulandspirit.net/mystical_experiences/learn/experts_define/stace.shtml
[4] Ralph Hood Jr. “The Common Core Thesis in the Study of Mysticism.” In Where God and Science Meet: How Brain and Evolutionary Studies Alter Our Understanding of Religion.  Patrick Mcnamara ed. West Port CT: Prager Publications, 2006, 119-235.
[5] Robert J. Voyle, “The Impact of Mystical Experiences Upon Christian Maturity.” originally published in pdf format: http://www.voyle.com/impact.pdf.
google html version here: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:avred7zleAEJ  Voyle is quoting Hood in 1985, Hood in return is speaking Stace.
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[6] Matilal (1992)  in Hood, ibid, 127.
[7] Hood, ibid.
[8] ibid.
[9] ibid.
[10] find JL Hinman, the Trace of God, Studies chapter, also Hood ibid, 128.
[11] Find, John Hick
[12] Dale Caird, “The structure of Hood's Mysticism Scale: A factor analytic study.”journal for the Scientific study of religion 1988, 27 (1) 122-126
[13] Burris (1999) quoted in Hood, ibid, 128
[14] Hood, ibid, 128
[15] ibid.
[16] ibid, 129
[17] ibid
[18] ibid
[19] Bernard Spilka, Ralph Hood Jr., Bruce Hunsberger, Richard Gorwuch. The Psychology of Religion: An Empirical Approach. New York, London: the Guildford Press, 2003.
[20] Ibid, 323
[21] ibid
[22] ibid, Hood in McNamara.
[23] Find  trace of God J.L. Hinman, fn 47-50 are original fn in that source
[24] Ralph Hood Jr., W.P. Williamson. “An empirical test of the unity thesis: The structure of mystical descriptors in various faith samples.” Journal of Christianity and Psychology, 19, (2000) 222-244.
[25] R.W. Hood, Jr., N.Ghorbani, P.J. Waston, et al “Dimensions of the Mysticism Scale: Confirming the Three Factor Structure in the United States and Iran.” Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, 40 (2001) 691-705.
[26] R.K.C. Forman, Mysticism, Mind, Consciousness. Albany: State University of New York Press, (1999) 20-30.
[27] F.S. Brainard, Reality and Mystical Experience, Unvisited Park: Pennsylvania State University Press. (2000). See also D.Loy, Nonduality: A Study in Comparative Philosophy. Amherst, New York: Humanities Press.
[28] Krishna K. Mohan, “Spirituality and Wellbeing: an Overview.” An Article based upon a Presentation made during the Second International Conference on Integral Psychology, held at Pondicherry India 4-7 January 2001, published in hard copy, Cornelissen, Matthijs (Ed.) (2001) Consciousness and Its Transformation. Pondicherry: SAICE.On line copy URL: http://www.ipi.org.in/texts/ip2/ip2-4.5-.php  website of the India Psychology Institute. Site visited 9/3/12.
[29] Find,ibid Trace
[30] Reid argued that we go with the experiences that work. We navigate through the world and those experience that enable us to get by we accept and those that don’t we avoid. No soldier in battle conducts a debate about Cartesian doubt while an enemy charges with a bayonet. The solider decides post haste to get out of the way and worry about the philosophical ramifications latter.
[31] find it’s in chapter 4 trace of god.
[32] Trace of God, find
[33] Austin Cline, "Argument from Religious Experience: Do We Experience God's Existence?" About.com
no date listed: URL http://atheism.about.com/od/argumentsforgod/a/religexperience.htm

These arguments are all discussed at length and proved in my book The Trace of God: A Rational Warrant for Belief.