IMBd page on war movie From Here to Eternity
I don't know if this should go on Atheist Watch or here. It's really a complaint about both the right wing religious front and the atheists. Huff post quotes this lonney tune who they take to be indicative of all Chrsitians think. A General--never heard of him-- "Jerry Boykin" who says:
The Lord is a warrior and in Revelation 19 it says when he comes back, he's coming back as what? A warrior. A might warrior leading a mighty army, riding a white horse with a blood-stained white robe ... I believe that blood on that robe is the blood of his enemies 'cause he's coming back as a warrior carrying a sword.Of course that's a total mutilation of the Bible. There's no indication ever, in any way that the blood assocatied with Jesus in that scene or any other is any but his own. Blood has a special symboilc significance in Chrsitanity, as a symbol of the Holy sacrfice of Jesus on the cross, God's grace. It is the symbol of God's love, grace and healing power. Turning that symbol into a violent representation of wordly motives such as reverenge and war is treating the boold of Jesus as an unholy thing. What dos the book of Hebew say about that?
How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (NIV)
The mighty army following him is the army of martyrs who gave their lives for the Gospel. The worldly army of sinful humanity shoots it's enemy and sops up their blood. The army of the Lord allows the enemy to shoot them, while praying for their souls. As Paul says "when I weak I am strong." Not "when I'm kicking ass I"m strong."(2 Cor 12:10).
Of course this general shows us his great Biblical scholarship by showing the Biblical basis for the anti-gun control line. I bet most of you didn't know that being against gun control is in the Bible. Of course it is. Not did the early Christians oppose any sort of bow and arrow control legislation prepossessed by Caesar but it says clealry be agaisnt gun control. The General shows the way:
Now I want you to think about this: where did the Second Amendment come from? ... From the Founding Fathers, it's in the Constitution. Well, yeah, I know that. But where did the whole concept come from? It came from Jesus when he said to his disciples 'now, if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.'Of cousre it was a litteral satment about how the chruch needs to really fight and kill the liberals..., I mean poor people,...I mean Obama supporters,... I mean enemies of the gospel. Of cousre his reading of the second amendment is probably second hand, since it says "in a well organized militia" not "every individual citizen should have a gun." That has nothing to do with Jesus' telling the disciples to buy swords. When it came time to use the sword he forbade it and undid the damage it did. Jesus told them to do that as a "signature fulfillment." He said that's what it was. It was so that the prophesy would be fufilled that he numbered among transgressors. He says this. That means he's saying 'Here I am I am the guy the prophesy is about." Nothing to do with having an army and fighting.
I know, everybody says that was a metaphor. IT WAS NOT A METAPHOR! He was saying in building my kingdom, you're going to have to fight at times. You won't build my kingdom with a sword, but you're going to have to defend yourself. And that was the beginning of the Second Amendment, that's where the whole thing came from. I can't prove that historically and David [Barton] will counsel me when this is over, but I know that's where it came from.
This is the kind scripture twisting idiocy that has created the New Atheist movement and divides the people of God and makes the Gospel look so stupid to modern people. At the same time, does the Hoff guys really expect us to think guy is representative of Christianity? He's a general come on! What do you expect a General to think? How many statements by Helmutt Koester has Huff post ever put up. The world today is a circus with clowns on every side. I thought Boykin might be from Texas, then we could write off his looney nature as the norm for his people, but he's from North Carolina.
Lieutenant General William G. "Jerry" Boykin (retired) was the United States Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence under President George W. Bush from 2002 to 2007 and is a conservative Christian political activist. During his 36 year career in the military he spent 13 years in the Delta Force, including two years as its commander, and was involved in numerous high-profile missions, including the 1980 Iran hostage rescue attempt, the 1992 hunt for Pablo Escobar in Colombia, and the Black Hawk Down incident in Mogadishu, Somalia. He is an author and teaches at Hampden-Sydney College, Virginia. He is currently executive vice president at the Family Research Council.