Saturday, December 05, 2020

Let us heal after the election

I am going to violate the agreement and speak of politics. I think it is in the best interest of the group that I do this. I have a friend, I wont say who he is. He is a Christian, a conservatove republican, he accepts the notion that the election was stolen, he is now ready to be killed by bands of vengeful liberals who he says are demonic communists; he thinks  Biden ,one of the finest men in American politics, is a demonic satanic Hitler. This guy thinks the shooting war i ready to start and liberals are going to come and wipe out his neighborhood.  Nothing even remotely like this is going to happen,

This is insane, those of you who think this way have been brainwashed you are in a cult. you need to deprogram yourself now. I speak the truth. When I think of the drug part of my life the people who did drugs were more rational than you are being right now. Republicans are so used to winning they can't accept losing now.

Liberals have won before and we did NOT wipe anyone out.Carter, Clinton, Obama there were no  purrges. Why would there be now?
 
The Election has not been stolen, Read about the court cases all the evidence has been rejected by the court because it's bad evidence. The whole idea is based upon a lie, you know Trump lies why believe him now? Even  his own Attorney General said this, Bill Barr said there is no evidence of fraud.

There will be no purge. reject fear.. Pray with me now agree with me in prayer Lord Jesus please pour out your Holy Spirit on America and give us peace and let us feel protected.If there was any wrongdoing in the election, expose it.  in Jesus name,

I have lost so many times in elections by huge land slides they can't stand to lose once it;s unfair, but I'm not gonna attack anyone.It's just politics in Democracy,

42 comments:

Mike aka MonolithTMA said...

It's bizarre how many buy into this fantasy scenario. The fact that some have weaponized Christianity as a political tool is saddening.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

It sure is.the evangelicos can't get it through their heads they are making the gospel into a thing of derision.

Anonymous said...

Of course the election is a fraud . Anybody with a working brain who can reason and use logic understands this . Whatever reasons you may have for believing this election was fair are based upon your own bias . Mathematics doesn’t lie . People do . It’s a fraud .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

are you actually saying Biden didn't really win but it was fixed? what about the Trump appointees that backed the 50 court rulings that there is no evidence of such fraud? It's the position of a nut case.

Anonymous said...

You can choose that position , it only conforms to your bias . It was ,and is ,mathematically impossible that Biden won the election fairly . Mathematics don’t lie , people do .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

that us total bull shit. Trump's approval never went over 45%, was usually 40%. His disapproval never went below 50, That means Biden had to win. The majority was always against Trump.

You are repeating a lie that has been disproven greatly over estimating the the number of votes.

Anonymous said...

What you write is only your conformation bias in play . The maths doesn’t lie , people do
. You need to stand outside yourself and try looking at the facts from an independent viewpoint .
If the names were reversed and it was Trump in Biden’s position you would scream foul play from the rooftops .
You believe the pronounced result because you want to believe it . It’s a fraud.
As someone who writes a blog concerning Truth your denial of what is plainly obvious to millions upon millions people around the world only takes away from your credibility .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

What you write is only your conformation bias in play . The maths doesn’t lie , people do

You would call any counter evidence confirmation bias you really don't know the difference.


. You need to stand outside yourself and try looking at the facts from an independent viewpoint .

I've already pointed out that your "maths" are a lie it's disproved. 50 court cases.

If the names were reversed and it was Trump in Biden’s position you would scream foul play from the rooftops .
You believe the pronounced result because you want to believe it . It’s a fraud.

that's not proof it's wishful thinking, you havenp't even told us what the evidence is, I doubt you even understand,


As someone who writes a blog concerning Truth your denial of what is plainly obvious to millions upon millions people around the world only takes away from your credibility .

the assshole's own hand-picked sup court justices ruled against him asshole.all pf those 50 rulings said specifically no evidence

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-benford/fact-check-deviation-from-benfords-law-does-not-prove-election-fraud-idUSKBN27Q3AI


Social media users have been sharing posts that say a mathematical rule called Benford’s Law provides clear proof of fraud in the U.S. presidential election. However, research papers and academics consulted by Reuters consistently say that deviation from Benford’s Law does not prove election fraud took place.


Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

Poloti fact

Joe Biden is president-elect of the United States. But in Facebook groups, conservative media and the Trump White House, the battle for the presidency is far from over.

Since Election Day, PolitiFact has fact-checked more than 80 misleading or false claims about voter fraud in the 2020 election. Federal agencies, state election officials and technology experts have all said this year’s election was among the most secure in American history.

Still, weeks after Election Day, Trump, his family and his supporters have amplified unfounded allegations of fraud and falsely claimed Trump won a second term in office.


Below are 80 of our fact-checks attacking the integrity of the election, organized by the 10 top misinformation trends we’ve seen since Nov. 3. Have a post or claim that you want us to fact-check? Send it to truthometer@politifact.com.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/nov/20/fact-checking-false-claims-about-2020-election/

Anonymous said...

50 Court Cases have nothing to do with Maths and everything to do with Law and Politics. That one is a non runner
Who are Politifact ? and is it possible that you believe them because they confirm your glaring bias ?
Has this been fact checked by Politifact ?
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G.%20McCarthy,%20&%20Staple%20Street%20letters.pdf

It is wise to remember that Truth has no agenda .
This is not a Democrat or Republican issue , this is about fraud and corruption by elected officials of both parties.
Maths doesn’t lie People do .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

50 Court Cases have nothing to do with Maths and everything to do with Law and Politics. That one is a non runner

the professor from Rutgers disproved the math thing,


Who are Politifact ? and is it possible that you believe them because they confirm your glaring bias ?


it's the most respected fact checker

Has this been fact checked by Politifact ?
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G.%20McCarthy,%20&%20Staple%20Street%20letters.pdf

yes it has, grow a brain

It is wise to remember that Truth has no agenda .
This is not a Democrat or Republican issue , this is about fraud and corruption by elected officials of both parties.
Maths doesn’t lie People do .

>Look brimless, Trump is an idiot he can't accept losing, loser Trump, he's whining. the evangelicals stupidly prophesied he would win now they have to cover their asses because they are false prophets.

Anonymous said...

And what did the “ most respected fact checker “ have to say about 3 Democrat senators and a Democrat congressman raising questions about the integrity of electronic voting machines ? It never happened ? It did .
The election is a fraud .
Your post calling for healing after this election is itself a fraud judging by the name calling and derogatory comments you make .
Truth has no agenda and it will be revealed . If Biden won the election fairly then those who support him should welcome transparency and lay bare everything connected to this election . If not ,then there will be no healing and the future will bare the scars from this lack of sunlight that millions upon millions of your fellow citizens demand as a right of their democracy .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

And what did the “ most respected fact checker “ have to say about 3 Democrat senators and a Democrat congressman raising questions about the integrity of electronic voting machines ? It never happened ? It did .
The election is a fraud .

ho were they and en and in what venue I am betting the questions were perfunctory and they were answered, why did 50 courts through them out including Trump's own hand picked judges? all said no evidence.

Your post calling for healing after this election is itself a fraud judging by the name calling and derogatory comments you make .

you are doing the work of the fascists, you are trying to over through the choice of the people based upon lies you want to believe, I will not treat fascists as lovie doveie.


Truth has no agenda and it will be revealed .

open your eyes and look at the proof!, Trump's own artery general said there's no fraud. Can't you see it's just Trump whining because he lost?



If Biden won the election fairly then those who support him should welcome transparency and lay bare everything connected to this election .

facts are in front of your face you refuse to see them.




If not ,then there will be no healing and the future will bare the scars from this lack of sunlight that millions upon millions of your fellow citizens demand as a right of their democracy .


you are living a lie the guys own AG said it's a ruse, get it thorough your head

Anonymous said...

No , there is more than enough smoke to convince people that election rigging is a time honored tradition in politics , Elizabeth Warren certainly believes it , Stacy Abrams in GA believes it . You can sweep these accusations under the rug because they don’t fit the current profile for claims of election rigging but you can’t make them go away . Truth has no agenda .
So Barr is a barometer for truth regarding the election , is that what you are saying ?
So which AG do you believe - The one who claims there is no election fraud or the one who said this - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-says-mail-in-voting-plans-are-playing-with-fire-in-divided-country/ar-BB17X2Bs
You cherry pick that which serves your glaring bias . Mathematics doesn’t lie People do. It’s a fraud .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

No , there is more than enough smoke to convince people that election rigging is a time honored tradition in politics , Elizabeth Warren certainly believes it , Stacy Abrams in GA believes it . You can sweep these accusations under the rug because they don’t fit the current profile for claims of election rigging but you can’t make them go away . Truth has no agenda .

that is not proof but merely suspicion

So Barr is a barometer for truth regarding the election , is that what you are saying ?
So which AG do you believe - The one who claims there is no election fraud or the one who said this - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-says-mail-in-voting-plans-are-playing-with-fire-in-divided-country/ar-BB17X2Bs
You cherry pick that which serves your glaring bias . Mathematics doesn’t lie People do. It’s a fraud .

Barr the current AG said no fraud

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

same guy says no proof of fraud

Anonymous said...

So Barr is a barometer for truth then . If he said it it must be so . Why ? Do you really take statements made by people who have skin in the game to be absolute and unimpugnable , or do you only accept them when it confirms your obvious bias . The latter it is .
Mathematics don’t lie People do . The election is a fraud .

There is more than enough evidence and convictions for election fraud that put it beyond the realms of suspicion and firmly in the lap of reality . The larger question is what the scale and depth of election fraud has been committed by both political parties and for how long .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

So Barr is a barometer for truth then . If he said it it must be so . Why ? Do you really take statements made by people who have skin in the game to be absolute and unimpugnable , or do you only accept them when it confirms your obvious bias . The latter it is .
Mathematics don’t lie People do . The election is a fraud .

this statement is diametrically opposed to his own interest so it's a safe bet he's telling the truth,

There is more than enough evidence and convictions for election fraud that put it beyond the realms of suspicion and firmly in the lap of reality . The larger question is what the scale and depth of election fraud has been committed by both political parties and for how long .

you have no proof of any kind, the only back up you alluded to that stupid math thing has been disproven by experts in the field, that was your only evidence. But the claimed evidence of Trump has been thrown out of court 50 times!

Anonymous said...

You have zero knowledge of what Barr’s interest is in what is the truth regarding claims of election fraud . All you have is your bias which Barr seemingly confirms with his statement .
You keep repeating the line “ 50 courts “ as if this has any meaningful relevance to the impossible maths that are obvious to anybody with an unbiased reasoning mind . The courts have not examined any evidence presented that implicates election fraud with maths to back up those claims . The courts have just refused to look at the evidence available to them and based their refusals on law and politics .
Mathematics doesn’t lie. People do

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

You have zero knowledge of what Barr’s interest is in what is the truth regarding claims of election fraud . All you have is your bias which Barr seemingly confirms with his statement .

It's all over the news media, if had a brain you would know it.Barr spilled the beans and Tru,p is going to fire him



You keep repeating the line “ 50 courts “ as if this has any meaningful relevance to the impossible maths that are obvious to anybody with an unbiased reasoning mind .


I've already documented the professor of math at Rutgers who said that is stupid. the expert says you are wrong


The courts have not examined any evidence presented that implicates election fraud with maths to back up those claims .


yes they did they got a mathematician to testify he said it is stupid. btw you don' really understand how the math things works do you?


The courts have just refused to look at the evidence available to them and based their refusals on law and politics .


no you must stop this it' stupid. Ever time your arguments are disproven you tell yourself another lie: "Only people who agree with me can know things." stop lying to yourself. people rejected Trump because he was a crook.

Mathematics doesn’t lie. People do

right like trump.

come on now explain step by step how the math thing works?

Anonymous said...

Here is commentary from your own blog when Clinton lost the election -

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2008
More stark realizations about the end of democracy
from OPed news

Have you forgotten? Private Republican corporations count and compile the votes with secret and unverifiable software! Just as they did in 2000 and in 2004, and we all know how that turned out.

Accordingly, the stark fact remains: the Republicans might "win" this election, regardless of the preference of the voters. The culprits who rigged the previous elections are fully aware that they might face hard time in the federal slammer if President Obama's Attorney General is ordered to investigate past elections. Thus they are acutely motivated to use their considerable resources to keep Obama out of the White House.

How soon you forget ! That’s your unbridled bias and pride putting scales over your eyes . One minute elections are being stolen with unverifiable software and now no such thing exists . You really need to step back and check your faculties . You are destroying any credibility you have built up with your blog on questions of science and faith by letting your hate cloud any reasoning regarding politics .
You mocked people who you claimed were scared to death of a Biden presidency when these are your own words from 4 years ago -
I am terrified. i think it has to be the end times. Maybe not by the numbers in the Revelation but the end anyway, the end for me anyway, But I don't want to get carried away with fear,
Well, you are still here and the world is still turning . Word to the wise - Truth has no agenda

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

How soon you forget ! That’s your unbridled bias and pride putting scales over your eyes . One minute elections are being stolen with unverifiable software and now no such thing exists . You really need to step back and check your faculties . You are destroying any credibility you have built up with your blog on questions of science and faith by letting your hate cloud any reasoning regarding politics .

You are not at the whole picture either, First there was some evidence for this unlike with Trump. Secondly when Jill Stine lost her court case I dropped it. I did not have to wait until they kicked it out of 50 courts.


You mocked people who you claimed were scared to death of a Biden presidency when these are your own words from 4 years ago -
I am terrified.

Fearing that President Biden will be a fascist dictator is stupid. Fearing Trump will be one is just awareness of his actual goals.



i think it has to be the end times. Maybe not by the numbers in the Revelation but the end anyway, the end for me anyway, But I don't want to get carried away with fear,

If so Trump is the anti-Christ or the prophet od the beast, Eschatological BS is the mark of real spiritual immaturity.


Well, you are still here and the world is still turning . Word to the wise - Truth has no agenda

that is insane of course he dies: enrich himself by any means necessary, AS means to an end his fantasy of being a dictator fits in nicely.

Anonymous said...

Of course you don’t believe that elections are not rigged .
If it was proven that Republicans have cheated using technology then you would believe it . We know for a fact that people have repeatedly lied about voting machines NOT being connected to the Internet which if true is a violation of federal law and so obviously reckless and dangerous , unless of course it is deliberate and nefarious .
Truth has no agenda. Words to the wise courtesy of John Adams -
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” You will be found on the wrong side of history .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

Anonymous said...
Of course you don’t believe that elections are not rigged .
If it was proven that Republicans have cheated using technology then you would believe it .

I believe many election's most elections are not rigged. You are making tautological statements. "If it was proven that Republicans have cheated using technology then you would believe it . " if it was proven i would believe it I believe what is proven there is no proof that the election of 2020 was stolen,



We know for a fact that people have repeatedly lied about voting machines NOT being connected to the Internet which if true is a violation of federal law and so obviously reckless and dangerous , unless of course it is deliberate and nefarious .

you don't know that, we know Russian tried to hack elections that way and that way have helped Trump win in 16, but we also put measures to protect against it.



Truth has no agenda. Words to the wise courtesy of John Adams -
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” You will be found on the wrong side of history .


Trump is a liar he almost always lies. his lies have an agenda.

Anonymous said...

You are wrong . It has been proven with 100% certainty that not only were voting machines connected to the Internet in the 2020 election which is a violation of Federal election laws , they were also communicating with foreign entities which is again a violation of Federal law and certainly criminal . These are INDISPUTABLE FACTS . . You are partisan and biased and because of this you are not capable of reason and logic when forming an opinion on these matters . In a court of law you would be classified as an “ hostile witness “ and your testimony would be scrubbed from the record . The election is a provable fraud .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

even your own Attorney General admitted no proof and kicked out of court 50 times those are indisputable facts.

Mike aka MonolithTMA said...

"These are INDISPUTABLE FACTS" 😂🤣😂🤣

Ok, Anonymous, next tell us about the Lizard People.

Anonymous said...

Problem with that statement ( there are many problems with your statement ) is that there is indisputable proof concerning the voting machines and the Internet in violation of Federal law . This proof is easily comprehended by anybody who is non partisan and unbiased and it is readily available for people who have an interest in Truth . That does not include you . The election is a fraud

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

Mike aka MonolithTMA said...
"These are INDISPUTABLE FACTS" 😂🤣😂🤣

Ok, Anonymous, next tell us about the Lizard People.


Rotflol! i AM JUST LUCY i DID NOT HAVE A MOUTH FULL OF MILK...

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

Anonymous said...
Problem with that statement ( there are many problems with your statement ) is that there is indisputable proof concerning the voting machines and the Internet in violation of Federal law .


no there is not, you are being lied to! Show we the proof. where is it?

This proof is easily comprehended by anybody who is non partisan and unbiased and it is readily available for people who have an interest in Truth . That does not include you . The election is a fraud

that proves your alleged proof is not hard fact but feeling and attitudes, from brain washing,

7th Stooge said...

Problem with that statement ( there are many problems with your statement ) is that there is indisputable proof concerning the voting machines and the Internet in violation of Federal law . This proof is easily comprehended by anybody who is non partisan and unbiased and it is readily available for people who have an interest in Truth . That does not include you . The election is a fraud

Problem is, behind all this pseudo-objective bluster, allegations of proof don't constitute proof. Proof according to who or what? If it's incontrovertible proof, why can't it be established in ANY legal proceeding?

If the opposite were true, if the Dems were screaming that the election were stolen and their claims were thrown out of court 50 times, often under OBAMA-appointed judges, what would you be saying?

And to harp on and on about your neutrality in being a completely disinterested trier of fact, especially in this case, betrays a little of your intellectual dishonesty... Behind the phony "Cloak of Objectivity" this all boils down to "Operation Cry Baby." Remember the Republicans mocking Dems with the "Sore Loserman" moniker in 2000 over a mere handful of very dubious votes and an even more problematic SCOTUS ruling?

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

those are great points man if it's so obvious and well proven why doesn't he have even one attempt to say what the proof is?

Anonymous said...

Posting evidence of the fraud would be like casting pearl before swine to you .
From your commentary and derision , now and in the past , you have shown that you are incapable of a reasoned non partisan and unbiased opinion.
The evidence is available in wonderful glorious technicolor for anybody who is looking for the truth regarding industrial scale fraud in the 2020 election . It’s a fraud. Deal with it .

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

grow up. Just like your hero Donnie you got your ass kicked and you can't accept it but you did.

Anonymous said...

I’ll try this one more time and see if you are censoring or my last post was not uploaded due to my fault .
Just for grins I’ll post this link and see if you can show any semblance of non partisanship and reason .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKiyAy9vjrk

7th Stooge said...

Posting evidence of the fraud would be like casting pearl before swine to you .
From your commentary and derision , now and in the past , you have shown that you are incapable of a reasoned non partisan and unbiased opinion.
The evidence is available in wonderful glorious technicolor for anybody who is looking for the truth regarding industrial scale fraud in the 2020 election . It’s a fraud. Deal with it .

If deigning to have to supply actual "evidence and stuff" is beneath you, then why are you stooping to the indignity of posting on here? Stop wasting our time. You're a clown. Deal with it.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

that link is a bunch of people allegations. If it is that cut and dryied why did the court kick it out? why did Trump appointed sup court justices vote to dismiss?

why did Trump's own Attorney general say there is no proof?

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

I looked at their link one of their main arguments that reaching 75% if the votes is abnormal?

So essentially their argument is Biden got too many votes.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

from

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/misinformation-thousand-cuts-varied-rigged-election-claims-circulate-n1247476


Nov. 11, 2020, 3:55 PM CST
By Brandy Zadrozny
For Trump supporters intent on finding it, proof of the president's claims that the 2020 election was "stolen" is everywhere.

For some, it's in the videos: the one in which a Colorado man claiming to be a poll worker, dressed in a yellow vest, rips up Trump ballots (it was a TikTok prank) or the trash bag of torn ballots found by a wedding party in an Oklahoma church (they were actually "spoiled ballots") or the testimony from a Pennsylvania postal worker who claimed he was ordered to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day (he has since recanted and also denied recanting).

For others, the evidence of a so-called Democratic plot could be found in the numbers.

"Is it me, or do people not understand statistics?" asked one of the 1.3 million members in Nationwide Recount 2020, a private Facebook group, presenting an impassioned, if confusing, case for why mail-in ballots in swing states were favoring Biden.

"Benford's Law," a supporter commented, linking to an anonymous Twitter account that claimed in a series of tweets that a mathematical observation that the first digits of numbers are likely to be smaller somehow suggested widespread fraud by the Democrats.

Posts like these, discussing a dizzying array of false claims and conspiracy theories, have dominated social and ultraconservative media since the early morning after Election Day, when President Donald Trump prematurely and incorrectly declared himself the winner. As the votes continue to be counted and Joe Biden's lead has increased (Biden was up by more than 5 million votes Wednesday), so has Trump's insistence that the election was stolen from him.

Anonymous said...

You failed. I’m not surprised based on your previous comments . Mathematics doesn’t lie People do . I won’t be posting again.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

you don't know anything about it. I just quoted a math professor disproving your bullshit. you are so stupid you think just using the word math makes you right,