Gustave Dore's illustration of Divine Comedy
Thesis:
Mind is the missing dimension that makes sense out of the TS, and TS
plus mind = God
the Argument:
1.
Any rational, coherent, and meaningful view of the universe must of
necessity presuppose organizing principles (Ops)
2. OP's are summed up in TS
3.
Modern Thought rejects TS outright or takes out all aspects of mind.
4.
Therefore, Modern thought fails to provide a rational,
coherent, and meaningful view of the universe.
5.
minds
organize and communicate meaning
6.
Therefore universal mind, offers the best understanding of TS
7.
Concept of God unites TS with universal mind therefore
offers best explanation
for
a view that is Rational,
Coherent, and Meaningful
(RCM).
Defending the premises of the argument
(1) Any rational, coherent, and meaningful view of the universe must of necessity presuppose organizing principles (Ops)
OP 's make sense of the universe and explain hierarchies of conceptualization: effects need causes, conclusions are mandated by premises, meaning in language is organized by rules of grammar. (RCM (rational, coherent, and meaningful) = Hierarchical order).This premise is rooted directly in observation, a coherent view of the universe requires OPs, and observation. That a rational and coherent view requires a principle that organizes reality according to some aspect of logic or math should be obvious. That's really no different than saying to really understand things we need a logical coherent view. At this point the skeptic might assume that the argument is a design argument or that it is saying that “laws imply a law giver.” Jerome E. Bickenbach and Jackqueline M. Davis tell us that the argument “laws require a law giver” is the fallacy of equivocation.[1] Right they are, since scientists don't mean the term “laws” in the sense that early modern scientists such as Newton and Boyle meant it. They really meant a divine command that the universe must behave in a certain way. The term “law” is a hold-over from a former age. “The laws of physics, and other scientifically discovered laws of nature are principles formulated by scientists (not prescribed by lawmakers) in order to describe regularities and patterns observed in the natural world...while there may be a God this is not shown by taking the existence of laws of nature as evidence.”[2] Whether or not physical laws are evidence of God remains to be seen, but this argument is neither design nor laws imply a law-giver. First, it's not a design argument to the extent that the inference is not drawn from design per se. Design works through either fitness, function, or the resemblance to things we know are designed. Since it does turn upon order there is overlap with design, especially the latter kind (resemblance to known design). Yet the point of inference is not taken from resemblance to known design but to the all pervasive nature of necessary to contingent order.
Secondly,
the argument is not based upon the assumption laws imply a law
giver. That idea assumes that physical laws are a simple list of
rules mandated by a God. That concept of God is based upon the
Suzerain model. The argument does not assume a set of rules but a
more organic relation. The point of inference does not turn upon a
set but upon one central, simple, and elegant idea that frames and
grounds the metaphysical hierarchy in a single all-encumpasing first
principle. Since I don't assume that scientists speak of “laws of
physics” in the same way we speak of “laws of traffic” or The
U.S, Code Annotated, or Black's Law Dictionary, then there
is no fallacy of equivocation. How I connect physical “law” to a
prescriptive sense without reducing description to prescription will
be dealt with in chapter four.
Above
I point to grammar as an example of a TS. The skeptic might argue
that grammar is just cultural, that would be wrong. First of all it
doesn't have to be innate to be an example. If language is just
cultural constructs
ideas
might still be formed in their function from
logical necessity
(not the actual signifiers themselves
but
the concepts to which they point).
An
example would be the logical rule A cannot be non A. That is not
arbitrary, but self evident. A thing cannot be other than itself.
Thus the logical law marks the fact as a road map marks geography,
but like a map the two might not always line up. In
that case, if grammar is a purely cultural construct, its still an
example of hierarchical conceptualization. Secondly,
there is a lot of good evidence
that generative grammar is genetic. Children
of one month old can distinguish between different phonemes in a
language, such as “b” and “p.” Researchers
know this by reaction of the infant to the sound. A phoneme is a unit
of sound in a word. Two
such studies are one by Kuhl and one by Scott, et al.[3] More
on this in a subsequent chapter.
Western thought has always assumed Organizing principles that are summed up in a single first principle (an ἀρχή) which grounds any sort of meaning: the logos or the transcendental signified (TS). When I have made this argument skeptics have argued that there is nothing in science called an “organizing principle.” One opponent in particular who was a physicist was particularly exercised about my use of this term. While there is no formal term such that scientists speak of the “organizing principles” along side laws of physics or Newtonian laws, they speak of organizing principles all the time. A google search resulted in 320,000,000 results.[4] On every page of this search we see articles by cell biologists, cancer researchers, environmental biologists. Mathematicians, physicists, and so on. Yes there are also articles by crack pots, new age mystics, people with all kinds of ideas. There is even a book by a physicist who argues that the scientific thinking of the poet and dramatist Johann Wolfgang Goethe is valid in modern terms of quantum theory. He talked about organizing principles.[5] An Article in Nature entitled “Organizing principles” discusses a famous experiment in developmental biology: in 1924 carried out by Hilde Mangold, a Ph.D. student in the laboratory of Hans Spemann in Freiburg. “It provided the first unambiguous evidence that cell and tissue fate can be determined by signals received from other cells…This experiment therefore demonstrated the existence of an organizer that instructs both neuralization and dorsalization, and showed that cells can adopt their developmental fate according to their position when instructed by other cells.”[6]
M.J.
Bissell
et. al. Discuss
malignancy in breast cancer. “A
considerable body of evidence now shows that cell-cell and
cell-extracellular matrix (ECM) interactions are essential organizing
principles that help define the nature of the tissue context, and
play a crucial role in regulating homeostasis and tissue
specificity.”[7] All
objects in nature are connected to other objects. This can be
demonstrated easily enough, as William Graham makes clear in
discussing “Natures Organizing Principles.”[8] He turns to ecosystems as an example. Fish in a school work by
individually possessed set of common principles such that they act in
unison without a leader. These are not evidences
of God they are not a design argument. They merely serve to bring
home the point there are organizing principles about. I know this
general informal use of the term does not mean that the Ops I want to
talk about exist. But it is clear there are plenty of structures that
organize and guide the way things turn out we do not have an
understanding of what organizes the OP. Yet modern science still
seeks a logos or a TS that would bind them
all together and unite them in one over arching principle.
A
skeptic could argue that there are self organizing structures in
nature. The self organizing structure supposedly doesn't require an
outside source to exist, that would defeat the principle of the
necessity of organizing principles. Self organizing systems do exist,
although they may not be truly self organizing. A self
organizing system is one in which the organization is decentralized
or distributed throughout the system. Examples include
crystallization (snow flakes), swarms of bees or birds, or neural
networks. There are two problems with trying to use self organizing
against OP's. First, there are contradictions within the concept.
self organizing is part of dynamic structures, but dynamic laws
operate locally. They can't produce large structures (like a
universe).[9]ix
Moreover,
Extending the familiar notion of algorithmic complexity into the context of dynamical systems, we obtain a notion of “dynamical complexity”. A simple theorem then shows that only objects of very low dynamical complexity can self organize, so that living organisms must be of low dynamical complexity. On the other hand, symmetry considerations suggest that living organisms are highly complex, relative to the dynamical laws, due to their large size and high degree of irregularity.[10]
Secondly, the term itself (“self organizing”) is a misnomer. Systems are not organizing themselves, they are being organized by physical laws and properties. As the Johns article points out self organizing systems are limited by “dynamical laws,” thus the prior conditions under which the system emerged (physical laws) is a limit on the system. An example of physical laws limiting self organizing is entropy.[11] The Gershen and Heylighen article shows that according to the second law of thermodynamics entropy in an isolated system can only decrease, thus, “[self organizing] systems cannot be isolated: they require a constant input of matter or energy with low entropy, getting rid of the internally generated entropy through the output of heat('dissipation')..”[12] John Collier finds that, “Self-organization requires an entropy gradient that is external. But this need contain no further organization...”[13] He goes on to say that new “selves” can emerge within the system but as stated above it does depend upon external forces. The article deals with self organizing systems and questions of identity. He defines self organizing as “a process by which larger scale (macro) order is formed in a system through the promotion of fluctuations at a smaller (micro) scale via processes inherent in the system dynamics, modulated by interactions between the system and its surroundings..”[14] Apparently even his definition of the process defeats the argument that self organizing is indicative of some kind of emergence from true nothingness. Some of the questions he explores include:
1) What is the self that organizes ? 2) Why is it a self ? 3) What is it for a process to be inherent to the system dynamics ? 4) What does it mean for interactions with the surroundings to modulate rather than determine or control ? Maturana holds that there are no satisfactory answers to the first two of these questions, if for no other reason than that the self that supposedly organizes does not exist at the onset of organization. Self-organization appears to require a sort of lifting oneself by the bootstraps without having even boots at the beginning. Self-organization thus appears to be an oxymoron, or at least a misnomer. Autopoiesis is a self-producing process that presupposes an organized self (Maturana and Varela, 1992 : 43ff[15]). [16]
Collier finds that Maturana and Varele are wrong, Autopoiesis does not explain the process of self organizing. The “new self” that emerges is changed enough to deserve the name self organizing, but it is not a process whereby a self creates itself apart from external forces. Of course we need not think of God interacting with new entities as each new process comes up. Clearly there is a law-like regularity that must be set up in advance of the effects it produces. We explore that law-like regularity in chapter four (are laws of physics descriptive or prescriptive?). Suffice to say self organizing systems do not negate the necessity of a TS.
A
skeptic
who is a physicist pointed out to me that science doesn't recognize
anything called an “organizing principle.” Yes it
does,
they just don't call it that. Sometimes they are called “laws of
physics,” or “natural laws.” But the concept is not limited to
laws. There is an organizing principle grounding and influencing
anything organized. Alphabetical listings, political ideas against
or for which the group needs to be organized,
necessity and contingency, any principle which forms
the basis for organizing something, but science recognizes this too.
They
are also called “causes.”
(2)
OPs
summed up in TS
Op's
can be categorized and understood in relation to a few key principles
that describe
their relation to each other,
such as mathematics, language, thought, culminating
in one overarching first principle or ἀρχή
(are-kay)
that
makes sense
of it all. Just reason
might be said to make sense of thought. TS's
are first principes and they vie for status each one as the first
principle (TSED).
I've
already discussed the logos of the Greeks and the use made of that
concept in various ways. Kant's categories and abstract principles
that regulate our understanding of everything, which corresponds to
Ops to some extent or perhaps transcendental signifiers.
I spoke of Paul Davies and his assertion that laws of physics have
replaced God in the works of
modern physicists, and in his own ideal along those lines as well.
There's another aspects in which modern physics sees a TS.
In principle this concept of a
single elegant idea that explains everything is what science has been
working toward for years. John Horgan says of
Steven Weinberg, “In
his 1993 book Dreams
of a Final Theory,
he extolled particle physics as the culmination of 'the
ancient search for those principles that cannot be explained in terms
of deeper principles.'
He predicted that 'the
convergence of explanations down to simpler and simpler principles
will eventually come to an end in a final theory.'”[17] A
skeptic might question the scientific veracity or the idea of a
single principle that reveals explanations built into the logical
structure of nature. Yet
in Dreams
of a Final Theory,
Weinberg tells us, “this is what our science is about: the
discovery of explanations built into the logical structure of
nature.”[18] David
Deutsch a quantum physicist at Oxford produced a constructor theory
that is
a
framework that
unites
all physical theories and eliminates
the impossible in hopes of finding the basic principle that explains
it all.[19] The
concept of uniting theories and the meta law are organizing
principles. The meta-law
is a transcendental signifier, so where is the TS? That's the reality
in the real
world
that these theories point to. The physicists are talking about things
like gravity. The ideas in their minds that point to the TS are
impersonal forces of nature; that
single structure might
well point to God and the physicists would have no way of knowing it
or ruling it out. We have a couple of ways. One of them is to follow
the logic of the argument. Clearly the premises are not ruled out by
physics.
I
have used TS and OP in a seemingly interchangeable way and this
may lead one to ask “which is
it?” TS is a form of OP. I usually use OP in speaking of ideas that
are known to be either naturalistic, or if constructed, the notion of
something no one disputes. The latter might be bigotry
(most people agree it exists), or that of freedom.
The former might be a more easily
demonstrated
idea such as cause and effect. TS is more theoretical and might be
metaphysical such as justice, or the absolute soul, God, or the
Buddha
mind. TS is an organizing principle but I tend to use the term of
more theoretical ideas, or ideas not as easily demonstrated to which
some may or may not give ascent. If there is an actual TS, it
organizes the organizers,
the OP's. The TS tends to be the next wrung up in the metaphysical
hierarchy; yet since TS
organizes it is an OP.
The TS is necessary and cannot be abandoned. Even attempts to abandon it result in the adoption of new Transcendental signifiers that refer to to the perennial concept of the ultimate first principle. One example of this replacement theory is that of Derrida trying to break down ethics, the attempt leads to the establishment of a new TS for ethical paradigm, i.e., “differance.”[20] The goal of difference as the answer to hierarchy and becomes the new principle around which the ethical paradigm is structured. An example of imposing a new OP in science would be the paradigm shift. An example of imposing a new TS is the atheist abolishing God talk from her vocabulary and putting science in its place. Or Marx with the same motivation makes ideology his version of God or the TSED, the top of the metaphysical hierarchy.
Finally, TS as a term stands for the top of the metaphysical hierarchy. The actual thing at the top itself is the TSED, the object of belief to which all TS's point. In other words as transcendental signifiers point to one reality at the top, the transcendental signified. so any given transcendental signifier might be wrong, but there has to be a Transcendental Signified. The words that describe the reality may very but there is a reality there. That which is all pervasive and mutually exclusive is not necessarily part of the definition but it flows out of the nature of being the top of the metaphysical hierarchy. It is clear that for some examples of the TS it is exclusive, such as “God.”
We can understand this tendency of all OP's to be summed up in and explained by the TS as hierarchical ordering, This is what I call “metaphysical hierarchy,” the TS functions as the top of the Metaphysical hierarchy. This forms a major part of the argument because the TS is the best explanation for the hierarchy.
Notes
[1]
Jerome
E. Bickenbach and Jackqueline M. Davis, Good
Reasons for Better Arguments: An Introduction To The Sills and
Values of Critical Thinking.
Calgary:
Broadview
Press, 1996, 189.
[2] Ibid.
[3] Patricia
Kuhl, “Early Language Acquisition: Cacking the Speech Code.”
Nature reviews Neuroscience 5, (Nov. 2004) 831-843,
doi:10.1038/nrn1533.
Institute for Learning and Brain Sciences and
the Department of Speech and Hearing Sciences, University of
Washington, Seattle, Washington 98195, USA.
Email: pkkuhl@u.washington.edu
Email: pkkuhl@u.washington.edu
See also: Sophie K Scott et
al, “Categorical speech representation in human superior temporal
gyrus. Is Categorical perception a fundamental property of speech
perception?" Nature Neuroscience,(2010). 13: 1428-1432.
[4] Google
search, organizing principles in nature,
https://www.google.com/#q=organizing+principles+in+nature
accessed 5/3/16
[5] Henri
Bortoft, Wholeness of Nature of The Universe: Goethe’s
Way Toward a Science of Conscious Participation in nature.
Herdon VA:Lindisfarne
Books originally
published by Steiner Books,1971,
1985, re worked version 1992,
69.
Henri
Bortoft, (1938
– 29 December 2012) received undergraduate degree at university of
Hull then did Postgraduate research at Beirbeck college. He
studiedQuantum Physics with David Bohm.
[6] Barbara
Marte, “Milstone 1: Organizing Principles,” Nature.Org (july
1,2004) doi:10.1038/nrn1449
URL:
http://www.nature.com/milestones/development/milestones/full/milestone1.html
accessed 6/3/16
Marte
is senior editor Nature.
[7] M.J.
Bissell, D.C Radisky, and A. Rizki, “The Organizing
Principle:Microenvironmental Influences In The Normal amd Malignant
Breast.” Pub Med, NCB, Dec;70(9-10): 2002, 537-46. on line
resource URL: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492495
accessed 6:3/16
[8] William
Graham, “Natures Organization Principles,” Nature’s Tangled
Web: The Art, Soul, and Science of a Connected Nature.
Oct. 30, 2012, Online resource.
http://www.freshvista.com/2012/natures-organizing-principles/
accessed 6/3/16.
[9] Richard
Johns, “”Self Organizations in Dynamical Systems,” Synthese,
Volume 181, issue 2,( July, 2011) 255-275
Johns is in the Dpartment of Philosophy,
University British Columbia.
[10] Ibid.
[11] Ibid.,
258.
[12] Carlos Gershen and Francis Heylighen, “When Can We Call A System Self Organizing?” Advances in Artificial Life, Berlin Heidelberg: Springer, Volume 2801 of the series Lecture Notes in Computer Science 2003,
Gershen is from Mexico, he earned his Ph.D. from University of Burssels in interdisciplinary studies. He studies self organizing systems.
[13] John
Collier, “Self Organization, Individuation, and Identity,” Revue
Internationale De Philosophie, 2004/2 (n 228) 151-172, 172.
John Collier is a philosopher at University of
Natal. The University of Natalis in Durbin South Africa, it has now
become The University of Kwazulu-Natal. Collier is from Canada, he
has taught at MIT and published extensively on self organizing
systems.
[14] Ibid.,
151.
[15] Huberto
R. Maturana and Francisco J. Varele, The
Tree of Knowledge: The Biological Roots of
Human
Understanding.
Boston:
Sambhala,, 43ff.
[16] Collier,
“Self Organization...” op. cit.
[17] John
Horgan, “Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg Still dreams of a final
Theory,” Scientific American, (May 1, 2015) Graham isa marine
biologist.
Online resourse, URL
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/nobel-laureate-steven-weinberg-still-dreams-of-final-theory/
accessed 9/20/15
John
Horgan was staff writter, A teacher at Stevens Institute of
Technology, Horgan is the author of four books, including The End of
Science, 1996, re-published with new preface 2015; and The End of
War, 2012, paperback published 2014.
[18] Steven
Weinberg, Dreams of a Final Theory: Scientists Search For the
Ultimate Laws of Nature. New
York: Vintage,
reprint edition, 1994, 10.
[19] Zeeya
Merali, ”A Meta-law to rule them all: Physicists Devise a Theory
of Everything.” Scientific
American, (May
26, 2014) online rfesource URL
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-meta-law-to-rule-them-all-physicists-devise-a-theory-of-everything/
accessed 9/20/15.
[20] Derrida
misspells “difference” for special reasons dealing with his
theory “deconstruction.” Se chapter three on “the Derridian
Background of the Argument.
I know we've discussed this argument before. Here's a counterargument that I think gets at the core of why I don't find yours compelling. You say "Modern Thought rejects TS outright or takes out all aspects of mind". Well, let's take mind very seriously, then. What, exactly, does it take for something to have or exhibit MIND? In every single case where there is convincing evidence (to me) of the existence of a mind, there is something with a physical brain. This provides support for an inductive argument that having a brain (or functionally analogous physical system) is a necessary condition for having a mind. So, to me, trying to appeal to mind as an OP leaves unanswered the Kantian-style question, "How are non-physical minds possible?" The best I think you can offer in response is a 'maybe' - maybe non-physical minds are possible, since they haven't been proved not to be. But to me this is no more convincing than saying that (to offer an analogy) maybe Einstein was wrong about faster than light travel and intelligent aliens know how to do it, which is how they can visit Earth.
ReplyDeleteI know we've discussed this argument before. Here's a counterargument that I think gets at the core of why I don't find yours compelling. You say "Modern Thought rejects TS outright or takes out all aspects of mind". Well, let's take mind very seriously, then. What, exactly, does it take for something to have or exhibit MIND? In every single case where there is convincing evidence (to me) of the existence of a mind, there is something with a physical brain. This provides support for an inductive argument that having a brain (or functionally analogous physical system) is a necessary condition for having a mind. So, to me, trying to appeal to mind as an OP leaves unanswered the Kantian-style question, "How are non-physical minds possible?" The best I think you can offer in response is a 'maybe' - maybe non-physical minds are possible, since they haven't been proved not to be. But to me this is no more convincing than saying that (to offer an analogy) maybe Einstein was wrong about faster than light travel and intelligent aliens know how to do it, which is how they can visit Earth.
ReplyDeleteWe've gone over this before, and we're not going to resolve it here, but I think there are good arguments to support the position that the relation between "mind" and the physical is contingent rather than necessary, so that even though we always see mind accompanied by brain (or something functionally equivalent), that accompaniment doesn't mean that we would necessarily always do so under any circumstances. If the arguments I'm referring to are right, then the fact that mind and brain tend to go together results from local conditions rather than from any necessary truth. So the idea of aliens traveling faster than light, being conjectural, would not be strictly analogous to this case which is supported by sound philosophical arguments, imho. I could be wrong and I respect your opinion, though.
It seems to me a given that, if there really is something behind the universe that is somehow akin to a human mind or consciousness, then of course the universe will turn out to seem more rational, coherent, and meaningful to human minds than if there is no such thing. Theisitic types of interpretations of metaphysics will therefore be easier to understand, and better integrated across realms, than their non theistic counterparts. (& we note that Plato is far more readable than Derrida.....)
ReplyDeleteIs that issue really open to debate?
Would some atheists really claim the intelligibility of thought - to the extent there is any! - doesn't indicate some kind of overriding ..... Um, " presence"
Both Jim and Mike give good answers Eric,I would like to see you answer them.
ReplyDeleteI see two problems with your argumemt Eric: (1) The argumemt that it can't be mimn assumes we know God has no body. We do not know that,Granted Christian doctrine denies this, But just from a logical standpoint we have no real proof he does not. Suppose physical matter is God's body? Or suppose positive energy is God's body?
(2) the argumet for mind is based upon the mark of thought not upon the logistical possibility of mind as an anthropomorphic entity, then to use the pragmatic issue of physical logistics as an answer to the mental mark of mind seems to be non-seqquitter.
The minds we know of require physical bodies but that;s only if we ignore the mind that created it all.
ps I have article reference in my forthcoming coming book that says worms and other invertebrates have mind without brains,
I see two problems with your argumemt Eric: (1) The argumemt that it can't be mimn assumes we know God has no body. We do not know that,Granted Christian doctrine denies this, But just from a logical standpoint we have no real proof he does not. Suppose physical matter is God's body? Or suppose positive energy is God's body?
ReplyDeleteEven if it can be established that God has a physical body, that say the universe is that physical body, would that help you? I thought your position was that everything is an idea in the mind of God, including presumably all matter and energy. So God, according to you, couldn't think with a physical brain because he'd first have to have the idea of a physical brain in his mind prior to any physical existence.
Even if it can be established that God has a physical body, that say the universe is that physical body, would that help you? I thought your position was that everything is an idea in the mind of God, including presumably all matter and energy. So God, according to you, couldn't think with a physical brain because he'd first have to have the idea of a physical brain in his mind prior to any physical existence.
ReplyDeleteThat's true I did not answer that as my official answer, I;m just saying his argent is based upon a premise he can't prove. Hypothetically God could be like a regular guy we are a part of the thought in the mind of that regular guy. I doubt that that is the case, But it could be he can;t make good on his argument,