tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post9064701936633450511..comments2024-03-28T08:35:59.048-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: The Phony Standard of the Jesus Myth ScamJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-2470652474161475492009-07-01T06:42:56.592-07:002009-07-01T06:42:56.592-07:00I am a historian. I was trianed in a history progr...I am a historian. I was trianed in a history program in Ph.D. work. I was a Ph.D. candidate for several years in a history program. I was teaching assistant for a big named historian. You don't know anything about historians you were not trained as one. I presented my own papers at professional conferences for historians. you don't know how to be a historian. I am one.<br /><br />I ask my committee chairman, who is an atheist, and the big name historian (from Cambridge) that I wored for what they thought of Doherty. they both said, independently, "why are you wating your time arguing with idiots?"Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-68934295309035230902009-06-30T21:43:34.382-07:002009-06-30T21:43:34.382-07:00Historians are much more skeptical then what many ...Historians are much more skeptical then what many Bible defenders seem to think. Though Livy's History of Rome is often relied on for Rome's early history, most historians do not automatically conclude that that work is right about Rome having been founded by the son of a god and a virgin who later rose up into heaven.<br /><br />And about Julius Caesar, if he had described how his armies included a brigade of mages who shoot fire and lightning at the enemy armies, would you believe that?Lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984896453534621864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-78199844977612983412009-06-28T19:02:59.035-07:002009-06-28T19:02:59.035-07:00hey thanks manhey thanks manJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-86553000453156295182009-06-28T18:52:54.669-07:002009-06-28T18:52:54.669-07:00Indeed! This says nothing for people in b/w folks ...Indeed! This says nothing for people in b/w folks like Jesus/John/Honi the Circle drawer and kings like Ceaser. If it wasn't for one measley inscription (easily forged [cough]), tiny mentions in Josephus and Tacitus, and the NT (which can't be trusted! [double cough!]) we would know nothing about Pontius Pilate, who was Roman leadership in Palestine for ten years I believe. Where is all the evidence for him?<br /><br />Great post Meta!<br /><br />in Christ.<br />DereDereknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-47338970879278121622009-06-27T20:44:45.910-07:002009-06-27T20:44:45.910-07:00how much stuff do you need to say someone existed ...how much stuff do you need to say someone existed in history? If Jesus wasn't the object of worship for Christians of course these guys would have no beef with his existence. There are not John the Baptist mythers.<br /><br />I have no problem with Cesar existing. I expect to find tons of evidence for that he was the most powerful man of his day. How much does it really take jut to be able to assume that someone existed?Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-17127419173522476172009-06-27T18:51:05.233-07:002009-06-27T18:51:05.233-07:00Wow......
That takes the stupidity cake.
How do ...Wow......<br /><br />That takes the stupidity cake.<br /><br />How do we know these documents are really from Caesar or Cicero? There is no way to empirically prove this. How do we know Cicero existed at all? Maybe his writing was forged years later by people seeking to invent or re-invent a warrior-king for the Romans to look up to. Hell, considering this info all passed through Christian hands (and we KNOW they had no problem making stuff up) for our earliest extant copies, who knows how much was added or subtracted!!! Much less if Caesar was a real human or not!!! Archeological evidence? All that proves is that the archeologists’ handling of the data is wrong. After all, they're all committed to the idea that Julius Caesar was real, and therefore their research is biased. Hell again, they could be lying or fabricating all their evidence as they go. I certainly have never seen any of it with my own two eyes. How then, can I know?<br /><br />Alas, this is the rabid paranoia fog people with historical judgment impairment (a terrible mental disorder running rampant among Jesus-mythers and Holocaust hoaxer) are destined to stumble into.<br /><br />The fact is that when we understand Jesus' purported place in the social historical framework of the day (a low-class Jewish peasant-preacher-prophet) the fact that we have so much for him far outweighs the heavier standard for someone like Caesar who was the king of the world.<br /><br />Read a book on the standards of historical epistemology for God's sake!Dereknoreply@blogger.com