tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post6737348115164455379..comments2024-03-29T01:14:19.030-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: Scientific evidence and God arguments part 1Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-4556826301546300232011-01-17T19:00:54.558-08:002011-01-17T19:00:54.558-08:00For one thing,it's not that states of mental c...For one thing,it's not that states of mental conscoiusness can't be the result of natural cause,but when the experience is not a believer and the firs expedience is the conversion experience and the trigger for the conversion then there's no accounting for it in terms of some belief based expectation.<br /><br />Since studies show that there is no link between mental instability and RE since the experiences find greater established as a result of the experience you can't reduce it to any kind of pathology or mental illness.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-88109432835159238832011-01-17T18:51:57.928-08:002011-01-17T18:51:57.928-08:00"(2) These affects cannot be reduced to natur..."(2) These affects cannot be reduced to naturalistic cause and affect, bogus mental states or epiphenomena."<br /><br />I'd be interested in knowing what those effects are, since all of the effects listed later in the post are changes in mental states or abilities which can easily be attributed to a person's belief that they have a loving relationship with the creator of the universe. In other words, no actual relationship is required.Brap Gronkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03075378067530053755noreply@blogger.com