tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post607557057713197086..comments2024-03-28T15:31:02.860-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: The Counter Apologiost Attacks The Moral ArgumentJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-67136407445880717912016-06-13T23:40:05.620-07:002016-06-13T23:40:05.620-07:00Am I reading this right? WCL really put forward th...Am I reading this right? WCL really put forward this incredibly bad argument? Did he ever take Logic 101? Did he pass? <br /><br /><b>I know it sux. He did study logic big time. he studied with Kasemann who studied with Baultmann. They didn't study logic but that means he's had a big time education. Toubingen.</b>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-25515210892600175782016-06-03T06:50:31.419-07:002016-06-03T06:50:31.419-07:00ok thanks
LINKok thanks<br /><br /><br /><a href="https://appearedtoblogly.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/mavrodes-george-22religion-and-the-queerness-of-morality22.pdf" rel="nofollow"><b>LINK</b></a>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-420550984538644762016-06-02T11:18:36.159-07:002016-06-02T11:18:36.159-07:00Joe: If you're going to write up something, I ...Joe: If you're going to write up something, I recommend giving this a look. <br /><br />https://appearedtoblogly.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/mavrodes-george-22religion-and-the-queerness-of-morality22.pdfEric Sotnakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06162425851889399481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-2454150629925151002016-06-01T23:26:52.642-07:002016-06-01T23:26:52.642-07:00yes true. It's valid. but it still sux as an a...yes true. It's valid. but it still sux as an argument.t I would not want to be stuck defending it in that form. I have a better approach I think .I'm going to get to it next week maybe.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-39847380955124330362016-06-01T21:20:53.698-07:002016-06-01T21:20:53.698-07:00Craig's argument, as he usually uses it in his...Craig's argument, as he usually uses it in his debates, is actually:<br /><br />1. If God does not exist, then there are no objective moral values.<br />2. There are objective moral values.<br />3. Therefore God exists.<br /><br />(The logical form here is modus tolens).<br /><br />Expressed positively, it would be:<br /><br />1. If objective moral values exist, then God exists.<br />2. Objective moral values exist.<br />3. Therefore God exists.<br /><br />His case rests on defending the view that some kind of divine command morality is the best (or perhaps only) hope for defending objective moral values. Eric Sotnakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06162425851889399481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-55820352752348521932016-05-30T21:21:18.629-07:002016-05-30T21:21:18.629-07:00we use to eat those on new years, caveats and cham...we use to eat those on new years, caveats and champagmieJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-66928268254903321712016-05-30T21:20:42.364-07:002016-05-30T21:20:42.364-07:00I know as an argument it sux. I don't know if ...I know as an argument it sux. I don't know if Craig really said that or not, I'm hopping he made some caveats.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-52720342591176758422016-05-30T08:38:00.669-07:002016-05-30T08:38:00.669-07:00"(1) if God exists, there are objective moral..."(1) if God exists, there are objective moral values<br /><br />(2) there are objective moral values<br /><br />(3) therefore God exists."<br /><br /><br />Am I reading this right? WCL really put forward this incredibly bad argument? Did he ever take Logic 101? Did he pass? <br /><br />~([A -> B] -> [B -> A]) Mike Gerowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14630695728013930638noreply@blogger.com