tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post5858912889957921114..comments2024-03-28T15:31:02.860-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: Is Self Sacrafice Ethical?Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-14621487561646737732011-11-29T06:55:53.901-08:002011-11-29T06:55:53.901-08:00I think his use of the term "objective" ...I think his use of the term "objective" is referring to Rands use. I never really understood what was so objective about her deal either.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-86795295973499959352011-11-28T20:20:37.084-08:002011-11-28T20:20:37.084-08:00I have not gone back to the topic on your forum. ...I have not gone back to the topic on your forum. I am going by how I understood it back then and from your blog post.<br /><br />But it really seems quite subjective to me. <br /><br />I could not understand how having a "higher principle" and following it, or trying to follow it, with each person being of equal value, would not be a more objective system.<br /><br /><br />This word "objective" made more sense to me in how I understood it being used, was if the word is being used as "objective" goals for oneself. Objective, like, "what is your objective". The argument did appear to be using "goals" as a part of existence. But, placing value in your own individual goals, living and thriving, would seem subjective to me.<br /><br />Placing highest value to one's own living and thriving seems too subjective to me (not that I am against the subjective). <br /> <br />If living and thriving is the value for me, and this is being grounded in the nature of existence, then why not accept that it is also the value for you and everyone else? Certainly, since such an ethics is being discussed with others that value is seen as universal?<br /><br />Which then, if one were to be more objective, I think it would then mean placing others value for living and thriving on equal footing. Universalizing would then bring up the need for principles beyond simple self interest. You would recognize others have the same value as yourself.<br />(selfishness is defined as being concerned with self without regard for others or something along those lines).<br /><br />Each individual simply holding their own individual living and thriving as highest value seems quite subjective.<br /><br />If you hold others as being of equal value, and so value others, sacrificing oneself from following higher priniciples, would show more of an objective ethical system in my opinion.<br /><br />Grounding value in one's own personal living and thriving, and goals, is what is subjective.<br /><br />Again, I have not been back to the forum but these are my thoughts from how I am understanding things and what I thought about. Hopefully, I made this post understandable, not sure how much.<br />RunamonkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com