tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post4981157134452587572..comments2024-03-28T00:48:19.961-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: Answering Lorden on "Are We All Atheists?"Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-18461298208507906252009-12-11T22:59:49.101-08:002009-12-11T22:59:49.101-08:00Metacrock, your "arguments" are mainly a...Metacrock, your "arguments" are mainly assertions, and rather hollow ones at that.<br /><br />As to Anaxagoras's conclusions about the lithic nature of the Sun and the Moon, I think that you are being a bit too literal-minded about them. They are not quite right, but they are more correct than supposing them to be divine beings, except if they can be divine beings and physical objects at the same time. In terms that Anaxagoras might have been familiar with, the Moon is a giant rock much like the Earth, while the Sun is a super fireball composed of a sort of naphtha air.<br /><br />Anaxagoras's contention was rather widely rejected as a result of the influence of Plato and Aristotle and Ptolemy and the like; it took Galileo's telescope observations to make celestial materialism respectable again.<br /><br />Metacrock, imagine that you had been in Socrates's place during Socrates's trial, and his prosecutors asked you about whether you really believe that the Sun and the Moon are not divine beings. Do you think that you would quickly be acquitted by claiming "I believe in a bigger god than your stupid anthropomorphic fairy tales"?<br /><br />I would say if I was in such a position that I believe that the Universe is governed by a totally impersonal Fate, and that I believe that gods with human personalities are figments of the imagination, projections of human personality onto the world around us. I don't know if I'd be acquitted, but I would willingly accept exile in such a situation.Lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984896453534621864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-37622885065108346952009-12-11T21:02:01.717-08:002009-12-11T21:02:01.717-08:00link here<a href="http://howgoodisthat.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/metacrock-from-atheistwatch-blogspot-com-takes-the-level-of-conversation-down-a-gear/" rel="nofollow">link here</a>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-89769225196254644182009-12-11T18:41:18.858-08:002009-12-11T18:41:18.858-08:00Jim Gardner has done a post in your honor on his b...Jim Gardner has done a post in your honor on his blog.<br /><br />As a fellow Christian, I would urge you to follow the law of love. Jim likes to show how Christians fail to follow that standard.<br /><br />When a Christian comes to faith, they begin to grow in the knowledge of the love of God. While atheism says that good feelings are the same as love, Christians argue that belief in Christ is our entry into the reality of love.<br /><br />Here is the link<br />http://howgoodisthat.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/metacrock-from-atheistwatch-blogspot-com-takes-the-level-of-conversation-down-a-gear/<br /><br />God Bless.D.L. Folkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14088685389758373359noreply@blogger.com