tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post1293067863442659300..comments2024-03-29T03:30:25.637-07:00Comments on Metacrock's Blog: How Do We Know?Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-32672239459745302592009-07-05T07:14:41.169-07:002009-07-05T07:14:41.169-07:00I still read. I don't always have something to...I still read. I don't always have something to say, but I do still read.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-14091371760308783882009-07-05T07:12:08.061-07:002009-07-05T07:12:08.061-07:00Mike, I'm glad to see you are still out there ...Mike, I'm glad to see you are still out there reading my blog. I thought you gave up on it. I am also glad to see Loren too. Hi Loren!<br /><br />Glad you two are still hanging around.;-)Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-25627238911520924482009-07-05T07:05:33.617-07:002009-07-05T07:05:33.617-07:00Oh I know you didn't think I was presenting a ...Oh I know you didn't think I was presenting a straw man. I was always partial to the tin man, myself.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-1622999124499328302009-07-05T06:57:50.018-07:002009-07-05T06:57:50.018-07:00Mike, I meant Loren was doing the straw man not yo...Mike, I meant Loren was doing the straw man not you. I can see how one would honestly make that mistake if he/she had not read my pages on the topic. I've written so much about it on the blog I thought Loren should know better by now.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-51373561289718490842009-07-05T06:37:55.788-07:002009-07-05T06:37:55.788-07:00So, because someone mistakes "ground of being...So, because someone mistakes "ground of being" for pantheism, it's their fault? It's not a straw man argument if someone says "ground of being" is indistinguishable to them from pantheism.<br /><br />That's like saying it's a straw man argument if someone can't differentiate between red and green.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-10356556429216224352009-07-05T06:26:39.491-07:002009-07-05T06:26:39.491-07:00I think that Mike aka MonolithTMA is correct about...I think that Mike aka MonolithTMA is correct about how a "god" that is "being itself" is essentially a pantheist god.<br /><br /><b>It's esier to bash. so it's just your straw man argument. You need to hate the big sky daddy don't you? have to keep that sky daddy in there because you can't hate an abstract ideas that's over your head.<br /><br />there's nothing about it that is pantheistic. It's not identifying the beings with being.</b><br /><br /><br /><br />That's more-or-less what Baruch/Benedict Spinoza had believed, but the orthodox back then claimed that that "God" is no God at all.<br /><br /><b>NO it's very different from Spinoza. That's so sloppy. you need to learn to deal with abstractions and distinctions between abstract ideas.</b>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-35565075405598367872009-07-05T03:32:22.739-07:002009-07-05T03:32:22.739-07:00I think that Mike aka MonolithTMA is correct about...I think that Mike aka MonolithTMA is correct about how a "god" that is "being itself" is essentially a pantheist god.<br /><br />That's more-or-less what Baruch/Benedict Spinoza had believed, but the orthodox back then claimed that that "God" is no God at all.Lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984896453534621864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-34162244756064892422009-07-04T12:11:38.013-07:002009-07-04T12:11:38.013-07:00Blogger Mike aka MonolithTMA said...
I think...Blogger Mike aka MonolithTMA said...<br /><br /> I think most people get lost when one says God is "being itself." It might sound like Pantheism of Panentheism to them.<br /><br /><br /><b>that's what we need theologians for. Its' not pantheism.</b><br /><br /> Crystal Star's question sounds like an honest one, and doesn't seem like she's making an argument, but then I don't know here and due t the glitch can't view carm, and don't care enough to email them to fix it.<br /><br /><b>It's an honest question I give it that. She's definately arguing.</b>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11516215.post-91085070419420278632009-07-04T11:39:46.528-07:002009-07-04T11:39:46.528-07:00I think most people get lost when one says God is ...I think most people get lost when one says God is "being itself." It might sound like Pantheism of Panentheism to them.<br /><br /><br />Crystal Star's question sounds like an honest one, and doesn't seem like she's making an argument, but then I don't know here and due t the glitch can't view carm, and don't care enough to email them to fix it.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.com